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Where I'm Clicking Now: The Delegate Hub

Where I'm Clicking Now: The Delegate Hub

Delegatehub.com believes that Hillary Clinton has a path to the nomination, so long as the superdelegates exercise their independent judgment.

In order to makes its point, the Clinton-sponsored site has outlined five facts about superdelegates (or automatic delegates).

Here are the "five facts":

  1. Pledged delegates and superdelegates are the same — they each count for one vote.
  2. Neither candidate can secure the nomination without superdelegates.
  3. Superdelegates are expected to exercise their best judgment in the interests of the nation and the Democratic Party.
  4. Florida and Michigan should count, both in the interest of fundamental fairness and honoring the spirit of the Democrats' 50-state strategy.
  5. There is a clear path to an overall delegate majority (pledged + super) for Hillary Clinton after all states have voted — with or without Florida and Michigan.

I don't know about you, but fact #4 sounds more like an opinion to me. The site goes into more detail, and also keeps track of current press articles regarding superdelegates. Check it out, and then tell me how you feel about the site? Should Florida and Michigan be seated? Are superdelegates unfair politics?

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pinkdragonfly pinkdragonfly 8 years
Haha janneth... nice! :) Yeah of course the Hillary sponsored site is going to say she has a clear path ...
pinkdragonfly pinkdragonfly 8 years
Haha janneth... nice! :)Yeah of course the Hillary sponsored site is going to say she has a clear path ...
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Ooh, good info, sugarbean! Thanks!
sugarbean sugarbean 8 years
It's really not fair to count Florida -- it's a closed primary, and there were record #s of people switching parties because they wanted their votes to count (and for months were told that they would not count). I personally had the papers ready to take the courthouse up to the very last day in hopes that the DNC would change its mind. They didn't, so I voted in the Republican primary. And the Florida Democrats haven't done much on behalf of their constituency -- although in the press they cry that they were helpless against the Republican-controlled Legislature, there's more to the story. First of all, a FL Democrat sponsored the original legislation that proposed to move the primaries to late January. Moreover, the link below will take you to video of the Democratic leader , Sen. Steve Geller, making a motion in the FL Senate to "not have the election before the first Tuesday in March" (because of the "threat" from the DNC) -- he "really, really wants it" -- he's *so* sincere. http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller_amendment_fullh.264%20300Kbps.mov The bottom line is, the DNC can't tell Florida voters for MONTHS that their votes in the FL primary won't count -- and then, at the last minute, after the votes have all been counted, change their minds.
sugarbean sugarbean 8 years
It's really not fair to count Florida -- it's a closed primary, and there were record #s of people switching parties because they wanted their votes to count (and for months were told that they would not count). I personally had the papers ready to take the courthouse up to the very last day in hopes that the DNC would change its mind. They didn't, so I voted in the Republican primary. And the Florida Democrats haven't done much on behalf of their constituency -- although in the press they cry that they were helpless against the Republican-controlled Legislature, there's more to the story. First of all, a FL Democrat sponsored the original legislation that proposed to move the primaries to late January. Moreover, the link below will take you to video of the Democratic leader , Sen. Steve Geller, making a motion in the FL Senate to "not have the election before the first Tuesday in March" (because of the "threat" from the DNC) -- he "really, really wants it" -- he's *so* sincere. http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/files/geller_amendment_fullh.264%20300Kbps.movThe bottom line is, the DNC can't tell Florida voters for MONTHS that their votes in the FL primary won't count -- and then, at the last minute, after the votes have all been counted, change their minds.
indielove indielove 8 years
So right, Jude. They've got to make these things up to make themselves feel better about being left in Obama's dust. Sore losers, but I'm not counting them out yet. Sneaky little buggers...
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
What clear path? The last time I checked, there was no "clear path" to her victory--looks like a pretty hard fight, and it's not like she's had such a great streak of recent successes to inspire confidence...
megnmac megnmac 8 years
I think the superdelegates make the primary process more questionable - that our leader may be selected by the few is really scary (and will upset me as much as the supreme court deciding if the delegates don't go with the person leading after the primaries, honestly, because it will be yet another elite taking the choice from the people). I think the system is flawed, especially since it means we're not looking at who can get more electoral votes, or what the mainstream outlook of the party is, but at what the party elite want to define the party as.
x_juicyfruit x_juicyfruit 8 years
I think it should be based on popular vote, and not on delegates. Each state should vote, and each vote should count.
janneth janneth 8 years
Oops, you forgot two of the superdelegate facts. See below. 6. If you throw doubles, you move your token as usual, the sum of the two dice, and are subject to any privileges or penalties pertaining to the space on which you land. Retaining the dice, throw again and move your token as before. 7. If a player hands the ball to another player of his team without any propulsion or throwing of the ball, this does constitute a pass.
janneth janneth 8 years
Oops, you forgot two of the superdelegate facts. See below.6. If you throw doubles, you move your token as usual, the sum of the two dice, and are subject to any privileges or penalties pertaining to the space on which you land. Retaining the dice, throw again and move your token as before. 7. If a player hands the ball to another player of his team without any propulsion or throwing of the ball, this does constitute a pass.
indielove indielove 8 years
Ok, so this site is paid for the the Hillary Clinton campaign. Why am I not surprised? What's the point of posting about this anyway?
indielove indielove 8 years
Should not be counted just because SHE wants them to be.
sleag sleag 8 years
That is just not right. I just don't see Florida or Michigan being counted.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Considering she was the only democrat on the ballot in Michigan, Florida and Michigan should NOT count unless they hold another election.Also, if you go by popular vote, Obama had already won more votes even if you include Florida and Michigan...before the Potomic Primaries even occured.
Jillness Jillness 8 years
Considering she was the only democrat on the ballot in Michigan, Florida and Michigan should NOT count unless they hold another election. Also, if you go by popular vote, Obama had already won more votes even if you include Florida and Michigan...before the Potomic Primaries even occured.
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