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ivanka ivanka 7 years
i saw her photo..... her face and belly,ugh,its looks scary!!!
ivanka ivanka 7 years
i saw her photo.....her face and belly,ugh,its looks scary!!!
runningesq runningesq 7 years
I actually think YOU are "disguuuuusting" ivanka, for being intolerant and bigoted.Rather than repeat what she said, I'll just refer to GlowingMoon's post. One can be female biologically and identify as a man.And no, of course I can't say "I identify as a butterfly, therefore I am a butterfly" --- but Gender Identity Disorder is real and in the DSM IV (I think IV).
runningesq runningesq 7 years
I actually think YOU are "disguuuuusting" ivanka, for being intolerant and bigoted. Rather than repeat what she said, I'll just refer to GlowingMoon's post. One can be female biologically and identify as a man. And no, of course I can't say "I identify as a butterfly, therefore I am a butterfly" --- but Gender Identity Disorder is real and in the DSM IV (I think IV).
ivanka ivanka 7 years
its disguuuusting.don`t be stupid,"men" CANNOT get pregnant,you are sick.... ugh
ivanka ivanka 7 years
its disguuuusting.don`t be stupid,"men" CANNOT get pregnant,you are sick.... ugh
gitsie123 gitsie123 7 years
WOW you guys are so hateful and judgemental it is really disgusting. I'd actually looked back on some of the expecting posts and none of accused Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Garner of being a media whore when they announced their pregnancy. If these children are growing up in a loving environment, then you guys should let them be. I saw the Barbara Walters interview and she showed all the hatemail she recieved. I really couldn't fathom anyone going out their way to be so cruel, but once I read all of these comments I understand. It is really sad.I think I feel sorry for your children more than his because they are going to grow up being just as cruel as you guys are.
gitsie123 gitsie123 7 years
WOW you guys are so hateful and judgemental it is really disgusting. I'd actually looked back on some of the expecting posts and none of accused Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Garner of being a media whore when they announced their pregnancy. If these children are growing up in a loving environment, then you guys should let them be. I saw the Barbara Walters interview and she showed all the hatemail she recieved. I really couldn't fathom anyone going out their way to be so cruel, but once I read all of these comments I understand. It is really sad. I think I feel sorry for your children more than his because they are going to grow up being just as cruel as you guys are.
sassy_chick sassy_chick 7 years
Wow, the reaction here is out of control. I lost a lot of respect for the Sugar community from these comments.
GlowingMoon GlowingMoon 7 years
I'm in the minority, too. Personally, I don't see this as disgusting. Also, for me, it's easy for me to identify him. BIOLOGICALLY, he's a female. I define biology by his DNA. Clearly, he was XX chromosomes. Just because he had his breasts removed, they're still encoded in his DNA. The blueprint (for breasts, and other female parts) is still there. This is partly why he is capable of being pregnant (a female biological role). He had kept is reproductive, female system. GENDER, he's male. Gender is defined by behavioral and cultural traits. So is he male or female? It depends on the angle. Most of us are consistently female or male in both biology and gender. However, there are some who have a foot on both sides. Again, personally, I don't understand the uproar and confusion over him. In my point of view, this is a no-brainer. JMHO.
GlowingMoon GlowingMoon 7 years
I'm in the minority, too. Personally, I don't see this as disgusting. Also, for me, it's easy for me to identify him.BIOLOGICALLY, he's a female. I define biology by his DNA. Clearly, he was XX chromosomes. Just because he had his breasts removed, they're still encoded in his DNA. The blueprint (for breasts, and other female parts) is still there. This is partly why he is capable of being pregnant (a female biological role). He had kept is reproductive, female system. GENDER, he's male. Gender is defined by behavioral and cultural traits.So is he male or female? It depends on the angle.Most of us are consistently female or male in both biology and gender. However, there are some who have a foot on both sides.Again, personally, I don't understand the uproar and confusion over him. In my point of view, this is a no-brainer. JMHO.
bluestar bluestar 7 years
How can you identify yourself as a male when you are growing a baby inside of you????
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
"I know of many flat chested, mothers with a lot of facial hair - does that make them men?! nope." :rotfl: rotfl:
momma-tikita momma-tikita 7 years
"I know of many flat chested, mothers with a lot of facial hair - does that make them men?! nope.":rotfl: rotfl:
runningesq runningesq 7 years
And, skigirl, that Thomas identifies himself as a male. I don't understand (well, I do, but it still disgusts me) all the uproar. Two people love each other and want to bring children into their lives. Much better than a 13 year old crackwhore getting knocked up, no? The media attention is something else, but again, I don't see how it's any different than celebrities whoring out their baby's first pictures to gossip rags.
runningesq runningesq 7 years
And, skigirl, that Thomas identifies himself as a male.I don't understand (well, I do, but it still disgusts me) all the uproar. Two people love each other and want to bring children into their lives. Much better than a 13 year old crackwhore getting knocked up, no?The media attention is something else, but again, I don't see how it's any different than celebrities whoring out their baby's first pictures to gossip rags.
skigurl skigurl 7 years
she (thomas) is no different than a flat woman with facial hair, only she doesn't laser it off or wear a wonderbrathat's the only male thing about her
skigurl skigurl 7 years
she (thomas) is no different than a flat woman with facial hair, only she doesn't laser it off or wear a wonderbra that's the only male thing about her
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 7 years
I hope they dont baste the turkey this year with thier baby maker.
Mykie7 Mykie7 7 years
kmattes, You are right in many ways. I think the problem so many of us have with this situation is NOT that He is transgendered. It's not that he's having a child. It's the fact that he's being SO public about it. Our concern (Or at least my concern) is for the children. I think this is going to cause them long term harm. Is it possible I'm wrong? YOU BET, and in fact I sincerely hope that I am. But truly, in the society in which we live today, this man and his family will be ridiculed. Sure Mr. & Mrs. Beattie can probably cope with this. They've gone through therapy, and are prepared for the ridicule that is bound to come their way. But what about the kids? They have no choice in this. If he had done this, and been very quiet about it and just went on his merry way, it wouldn't be so bad. Yes, the kids would still have to deal with ridicule, but not on this grand of a scale. As it is now, the entire world is going to know. It's hard enough for kids growing up with what are considered 'normal' issues (shyness, sensitivity etc) but to add something like this to the mix could have some very long term negative effects.
Martini-Rossi Martini-Rossi 7 years
just because we express our thoughts using CAPS and exclamation marks doesnt mean that we're losing sleep over this at all. Its just very misleading when people refer to this woman as a man. She is not a man!!!!! She's just a hairy pregnant woman.I know of many flat chested, mothers with a lot of facial hair - does that make them men?! nope.Some mornings when I wake up I feel like a man....does that mean I'm a man for a day? nuh-uh.Im not an ignorant person. I know the difference between a man and a woman. I just a little offended by the title "Pregnant Man" - men cant give birth. Thats just the way it is.
Martini-Rossi Martini-Rossi 7 years
just because we express our thoughts using CAPS and exclamation marks doesnt mean that we're losing sleep over this at all. Its just very misleading when people refer to this woman as a man. She is not a man!!!!! She's just a hairy pregnant woman. I know of many flat chested, mothers with a lot of facial hair - does that make them men?! nope. Some mornings when I wake up I feel like a man....does that mean I'm a man for a day? nuh-uh. Im not an ignorant person. I know the difference between a man and a woman. I just a little offended by the title "Pregnant Man" - men cant give birth. Thats just the way it is.
jessie jessie 7 years
and this also comes from a state we they just elected a crossdresser for a mayor in one of the small towns...:rotfl:...who cares if he/she is a sheman or heman....they are going to have a beautiful family and everyone deserves a chance at that.
jessie jessie 7 years
and this also comes from a state we they just elected a crossdresser for a mayor in one of the small towns...:rotfl:... who cares if he/she is a sheman or heman....they are going to have a beautiful family and everyone deserves a chance at that.
SusanTeufel SusanTeufel 7 years
Skigurl: Ahem, my name is Susan, and I am not a mother. (I'm 20). Though, no offense taken, I never had to share my name with anyone though in school, I've always been the only Susan in my class. It is a 70's name. My Dad was determined to name a girl Susan, even if it took my parents until they were 40 to have a girl to name Susan. But, on topic. I agree with others. Thomas is a woman with a male appearance. He has female innards.
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