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New York Baristas Sue Starbucks

Uh, Oh, More Trouble Brewing For Starbucks

Starbucks must have smelled this one coming. After the ruling from a California court last week that Starbucks owes its CA baristas $105 million because it allowed supervisors to get a piece of tip jar action, now the New York Times is reporting that a similar suit in New York has just been filed.

One of the lawyers who brought the case to NY is trying to make it a class action on behalf of all the state's baristas. Meanwhile, the CA case is being appealed and CEO Howard Schulz deemed the ruling “extremely unfair and beyond reason.” A Manhattan barista interviewed by the Times said she's paid $10.03 an hour after working at Starbucks for three years, and a shift supervisor who has the same amount of time under her green apron makes $10.25 an hour.

Does it make sense that $0.22 more per hour and additional responsibilities disallows supervisors from partaking in the tip jar? The real issue is that the supervisors are considered management and the tip sharing offends state law, but these suits do seem slightly frivolous.

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WeTheLiving WeTheLiving 7 years
I've only tipped once at Starbucks. Actually, it was the only day I've even seen a tip jar and it was a holiday, so I was in the giving mood. But even if I usually saw it there, I doubt I'd tip. I'm already paying 4 bucks for cup of coffee (which you never really know if it's gonna be good or not, just depends on the person). Seems like you have to tip for everything nowadays. 25 cents sure isn't much more to justify not getting tips, so either pay them more and no tips, or pay them the same, give them a different title and let them get tips.
carhornsinapril carhornsinapril 7 years
the answer to this whole situation should be: pay the shift supervisors more, so the tips don't matter to them!
JaimeLeah526 JaimeLeah526 7 years
If the supervisors are only getting a little more money and tons more responsibility than they should definitely get to have tips too. If most supervisors make more than this or get promoted faster than I think it's completely wrong for them to be stealing the tips of the people who are being tipped. I'm completely against combining tips. If you want to tip a person they should make all the money not split it with everyone. It's not fair.
OMGoshDramaQueen OMGoshDramaQueen 7 years
OMG - WTF.
OMGoshDramaQueen OMGoshDramaQueen 7 years
OMG - WTF.
Meka_suga Meka_suga 7 years
I don't think its that serious.
MandyJoBo MandyJoBo 7 years
P.S. The supervisors are usually the ones that re-make my frap when someone makes it too soupy. They deserve the tips even more, IMO. Not just because of that (some baristas get it right).
MandyJoBo MandyJoBo 7 years
I, too, think it's quite ridiculous. As a frequent customer, I'm not even a proponent of the Starbucks tipping policy, but since it's there, I think it's petty to disallow the supervisors from getting a cut because they make a few cents more. The baristas will end up making more than their supervisors--why would anyone want to be 'promoted'?
kwikwit kwikwit 7 years
This is just ridiculous - those shift managers deserve those tips just as much as the barristas do. Once again, there are probably lawyers just looking for a % and aren't caring about the people that this will affect. Hopefully, Starbucks will change their rules going forward to include the shift managers in the tip pool going forward.
ilanac13 ilanac13 7 years
that's the problem when suits like this are filed and there's a favorable outcome. i think that just about any state that CAN file now will...and that's definitely going to influence the price that we pay when we go to starbucks. it's like we're going to have to pay more not only for the increased cost for the goods (since milk etc are higher) but we'll have to make it up some how for the company to pay out all these hundreds of millions.i can understand the need to be 'fair' but it's a chain reaction now and everyone's going to file a class action or whatever.
ilanac13 ilanac13 7 years
that's the problem when suits like this are filed and there's a favorable outcome. i think that just about any state that CAN file now will...and that's definitely going to influence the price that we pay when we go to starbucks. it's like we're going to have to pay more not only for the increased cost for the goods (since milk etc are higher) but we'll have to make it up some how for the company to pay out all these hundreds of millions. i can understand the need to be 'fair' but it's a chain reaction now and everyone's going to file a class action or whatever.
mjane79 mjane79 7 years
I agree that this is stupid. If the supervisor is working on the floor and doing that same tasks as the barista, they deserve a share of the tips. Anyone who is doing the work that the customer tipped for deserves to share in the tips.
raieven raieven 7 years
WTF, when I was supervisor at Java City I made 7.75, 50 cents more per hour, and that was after working there for 1.5 years (in a job where people tend to quit after 3-5 months MAXIMUM) and you bet I took tips, the customers were MY regulars and I was making sure things got done, and it would have been my ass had they not. Dumb dumb dumb.
SkinnyMarie SkinnyMarie 7 years
sandiego I agree with you, I didn't know how to say it never working there, but have been in a similar situation.
SanDiegoLove SanDiegoLove 7 years
AHHHH! These lawsuits p*ss me off!! As a former shift supervisor it makes me so angry that someone thinks my menial $0.25/hour raise in pay should disqualify me from sometimes $3/hour in tips. In all the Starbucks locations I've worked, Shifts do just as much of the nitty gritty work as Baristas. Managers and Asst. Managers do not get tips and that's valid because they're not on the floor as much as everyone else; Shifts are on the floor as much as Baristas, so why is someone telling me I don't deserve tips?I understand this might not be legal but Starbucks is doing the right thing by fighting these lawsuits. They might lose due to the interpretation of the law but their fight will hopefully bring about change in the long run.
SanDiegoLove SanDiegoLove 7 years
AHHHH! These lawsuits p*ss me off!! As a former shift supervisor it makes me so angry that someone thinks my menial $0.25/hour raise in pay should disqualify me from sometimes $3/hour in tips. In all the Starbucks locations I've worked, Shifts do just as much of the nitty gritty work as Baristas. Managers and Asst. Managers do not get tips and that's valid because they're not on the floor as much as everyone else; Shifts are on the floor as much as Baristas, so why is someone telling me I don't deserve tips? I understand this might not be legal but Starbucks is doing the right thing by fighting these lawsuits. They might lose due to the interpretation of the law but their fight will hopefully bring about change in the long run.
SkinnyMarie SkinnyMarie 7 years
they are completely frivelous. Ugh people are annoying.Sooo my hairdresser is a manager, and she excepts tips? and I have been waited on in a restaurant by a manager and I tip them. If someone is providing and acting out a service, they deserve a tip whether or not they are in a "management" position.
SkinnyMarie SkinnyMarie 7 years
they are completely frivelous. Ugh people are annoying. Sooo my hairdresser is a manager, and she excepts tips? and I have been waited on in a restaurant by a manager and I tip them. If someone is providing and acting out a service, they deserve a tip whether or not they are in a "management" position.
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