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Sep 23 2009 - 4:00am Tina Fey captured the essence of high school girl-on-girl cruelty when she wrote the screenplay for
Mean Girls. In the movie, Lindsay Lohan's character Cady describes how the queen of mean Regina George ruled her minion Gretchen, in addition to the whole school:
The meaner Regina was to her, the more Gretchen tried to win Regina back. She knew it was better to be in the plastics, hating life, than to not be in at all.
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LOL. I'm from NJ... if my High school had a 'sluts list' it would be 90% of the school. dirtiest state in the world... so many STDs and pregnant teens... its horrible because we actually get sex ed that doesn't teach abstinence as the only form of birth control.... hmmmm... makes you think maybe all the crazy parents that want kids to not know about birth control and condoms from school may be right... but thats doubtful.
1not in high school. junior high did!
2Of course there were some mean girls. I don't recall a slut list. I spent most of my time with my head down in high school, so I managed to remain oblivious to a lot of high school drama, except for that one girl who called me ugly to my face. b*tch.
3I'm also from NJ, and to be honest my high school was just TOO BIG for this kind of drama and nonsense. I had 800 people in my grade; there were too many people for true cliques to form. People really did have multiple groups of friends and while there were a lot of fights and a lot of drama, it by-and-large wasn't the 'popular kids' vs the 'losers', it was people who had issues with each other (for stupid reasons usually, but still reasons). My senior year I believe they started to have issues with this kind of thing with the freshman since they were in a separate building that year. (My high school was overtly complicated - my freshman/sophomore year, the school was split into two campuses, with F/S in one and J/S in another about a mile and a half down the road. Junior year they finished construction on the east (F/S campus) and made it S/J/S in there, freshman in the old middle school which was on the same east campus, and put the middle school (one of 2 in our district) in the old west campus .... too many people in one school!!!!)
I do remember in 6th grade, two boys got in trouble in computer class for making a freewebs websites called 'The Asses of Sandburg' and making a list of girls with who they thought had the best asses. That's kind of a compliment, though, lol ... and we laughed about that story all the way to high school graduation.
4it was probably me
5but not as bad as the movie
Aren't there mean girls everywhere?
6I am from NJ, and my school didn't have any of that kind of sh*t. No teen pregnancies, no drop outs, no people that always wanted attention and decided to spread heinous rumors. That just did not happen. Granted, there were your cliques, but everyone was nice to each other...and I will never speak, nor have I ever spoken of a fellow graduate in that way. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean they are sluts. Just because you don't like someone, it doesn't mean that you go and create lists or books or anything about how much you hate those people.
In my school, the people drove audi's and BMW's and lived in million dollar houses. I assure you making up lists in your spare time or during class just did not happen. They had better things to do. Like race those cars on Route 208 or something, haha.
Now that I teach HS, in a different state...I don't notice this happening a lot. Though, since I do live in the south, there are lots of teen pregnancies (top 10) and New Jersey is bottom 3 or something. So obviously, we have more drop outs than NJ did. These kids don't go around creating lists, I would hope. They don't seem like the kind who are too concerned.
7We didn't really have this problem in my high school, thankfully.
Although, I have to say, I have volunteered pretty extensively (and with several different demographic groups) since high school, and I think the people who drive expensive cars and live in nice houses are, by far, the worst with this kind of behavior. Of course, there are exceptions, but so many of the wealthier students seem to have such a sense of entitlement.
8I guess, to some extent, the less economically-advantaged students also have more "real" problems to deal with, like absentee parents, having to work to help support their families, drug dealers in their neighborhoods, etc. They just don't have the time for this pettiness like the students from wealthy families do.
9yeah, and I was one of them. although I was also a nice girl! my friends and i were definitely the ones people wanted to be like and be with and we sometimes abused that position, but i'd say most of the time we were just normal high school girls.
10one group of "nerdy" guys even made a website about my two friends and i writing things like 'sure they are pretty but they are stupid twits' or 'you can't get everywhere in life on your looks, especially once people find out you're a b*tchy airhead'.
couldn't be further from the truth, yet so funny to look back on!!
i went to high school in a predominantly lower-middle-class area, so there were really no divisions based on what kind of car you drove or what name brands you wore. i would say the cliques were more based on the activities you did or the classes you were in. there was the typical girl-on-girl name calling and whatnot, but there was never anything as extensive as a slut list or burn book.
11Yah they were actually friends of mine, so that worked in my favor. And they didnt do anything as serious as the lists or books that are happening now. They just spread good ol fashioned rumors!
12My HS was not like that. I was not popular at all, but the popular girls were all very nice to me.
13My school was like this - totally based on looks, cash, what car you drove, what your parents did for a living. I remember one of our star football players had a crush on me but the popular girls didn't like me so he couldn't ask me out. The popular girls were also the sluttiest and it seemed everyone was sleeping with each other. Yuck!
14I think you can find mean girls everywhere and at every age. I've definitely come across mean girls in grad school. But to be so insecure at that age, they seem more sad and pathetic than anything else.
15I went to a high school in SoCal and we didn't have this problem. I went to a school that had tracks (A,B,C track) and each track had about 15000 students so there was always at least 3000 students going at one time. Despite how many students we had pretty much everyone knew each other and hung out together. There were the goths and the athletes, etc. but they all would hangout together. Of course there was the occasional fight between two people who just didn't like each other.
People at my school had other things to worry about like gangs and helping to support their families, we had no time for stupid things like sl*t lists etc. However, in my senior year a student who was expelled from school created a myspace page that was all about bashing ppl. It only lasted about a month and nobody really cared.
16High school? Not really.
Middle school? Yes, and regrettably, I was one of them
... we were so mean to a girl in our
grade that she went to a different high school. I'm glad that, 15 years later, I am a much better person.
17I went to a lot of different schools, and while all of them had crappy people, none of them had any groups like this... and none of them were in the greatest areas. LA was probably the worst for me, not a single person was less then completley sh*tty to me, and i went to that high school for 3 months with no friends at all.
18We didn't have this in our school. I went to a very middle-class high school in Ohio...I'm sure it is a bigger problem with schools with a much wealthier class of people, because as Kim said. There were obviously people that were more popular than others, and they were mean to some people, but it was nothing like this. Most people in my school were relatively nice, and almost everyone talked to one another.
19I'm with Snookyx; my SoCal high school did not have problems like that- mostly because it was a low-middle class high school. I'm so glad I went to a school like where what kind of car you drove or what your parents did for a living was of no importance. I actually didn't even think this stuff was relevant in high school until my college boyfriend told me awful stories from HIS high school which of course was on the wealthier side of town.
20We did, and I have a great story about it! I ran into our Regina George years later and asked her very snarkuly if she realized was about her clique. It was awesome!
21Asked her if she realized that the movie, "meangirls" was about the kinds of girls in her clique, I meant to say. iPhone, ftl.
22I went to an all girls Catholic High School. We were ALL Mean Girls!!
23Middle school, yes, but I remained drama free in high school.
24There was cliques in my high school and people got picked on. Some people picked on my group and we picked on kids in another group. I was far from being pretty or popular. Some of the popular kids liked me some didn't. For the most part I kept a low profile.
There was no hazing as far as I know. My school was so small. We all knew each other since nursery school and were mostly all from the same social class and of the same race.
25I think there are mean girls everywhere, it just depends on the school.
More or less everyone got on and like each other at my high school no probs between us- girls and boys wise
26Yeah, it was a problem in my school, but mean girls are everywhere, not just in HS. Unfortunately, not all of the mean girls who were at my school ever matured or realized how b*tchy they were. I have run into them a couple times since and they're still the same b*tches that they were then..
27I guess there were some but my school had over 4000 kids so it wasn't like there was any one group or person that was well known, or in control of the entire school
28If you say no, its because you were the bad girl.
29mean girl, I mean
30Oh yeah, there was a horrible group at my highschool. What's nice though is because of FB I could see Karma def gave what was coming to them and yes its a nice feeling.
31hmm, mean girls yes, in both middle school and high school but luckily I was never a target for their games and taunting. Slut lists? I'm pretty sure there are millions of those kind of lists out there, but I wasn't in the "in" crowd to know what reallllyyy was going on behind closed doors or bathrooms or in the locker rooms or whatever kids did. But, the slut lists are quite popular in college, I've had guy friends refer several girls to me as the "bicycle" cuz everyone rides them!
32My Dad got transferred from Texas to California at the end of my sophomore year of high school...in retrospect, I was befriended by the Mean Girls at my new school -- unfortunately, I think it took me a good year to figure that out.
33Oh, and when I saw the movie I nearly died considering the "leader" of our "group" was a complete REPLICA of Regina. I started hanging out with my parent after that.
34I think our school was too new (When I started the school was in it's third year) to really have cliques and the like. There were groups of people, based on what you did/liked. Skaters, jocks, geeks, nerds, whatever. But we all kinda hung out together.
35Nah, not really. I went to a high school with over 5000 kids, and like some other people have said, that just doesn't happen with schools that size. There were loosely defined groups, but there was so much intermingling that it really didn't matter.
36We kind of did, but it wasn't nearly as harsh as Mean Girls.
37It probably did, but I was so into my own thing that I didn't even notice it. So my answer is NO.
38*****XXStardust - I'm with you. My school was way to large for this kind of drama. We had so many separate groups, that you really didn't know anyone else other than who you hung out with in your own group.
I had 1500 kids in my senior class. But, there typically are mean girls in high schools I would guess. And, listening to the news about internet bullying seems to be getting a younger crowd. Sad.
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@ Daisy Duke.... #23
40Yes, we def had the Mean Girls at my high schools. My freshman year my mother moved me to South Jersey and those had to be the worst not only were they mean they were violent. I can't tell you the number of times I got jumped because of my accent and the fact that me and my parents were in entertainment, but the straw that finally broke the camels back was when they set a burning cross up in my front lawn. I guess being mixed was a big no-no in my neighborhood. Being from europe I had never experienced that before.
41Sophomore year I transfered to another high school with more of diverse group of people in it, and things were just as bad if not worse because I started to get physically abused. Showing up in magazines was a big no-no as well. I finally moved back to Europe and went to boarding school there.
I can't complain now. I have a great education, I speak 3 languages, and have traveled to over 30 countries. Plus, the girls that used to pick on me are all fat with multiple children and no husbands.
Karma is b*tch.
not in my high school or probably i was too pre-occupied with extra-curricular stuff and academics to even take notice!
there were mean girls probably but they didn't necessarily belong to
my section (we were *academically* grouped like the top 1 to top 50 students were all classmates)
42and oh, in middle school though, mean girls existed and i remember being bullied all the time.. it took me years to get over it and finally come out of my shell!
43maybe there was the popular bunch but no one ever picked on me or anything. I wasn't popular but to fit in a little I did swim team and softball. I also did track. Mostly the girls were preoccupied with themselves. Maybe a couple of kids got picked on for being heavy, but I kept to myself and excelled in art classes. That kinda thing. Nothing like how they portray in movies. I being acutely aware of how I looked and kept up with fashions and hair like it was the most important thing in the world.
44I Went to private school, all boys I FEEL SO Awesome
45This was actually my high school (no joke)! The situation was very exaggerated, and most people in the school don't think it is a very big deal. Even the news dramatizes issues, not just Hollywood. That being said, there are still a small group of "mean girls" who pick on younger girls with the goal of making them feel small (though the younger girls enjoy the attention).
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