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Do You Agree With Madonna's "Ageist" Comments?

Do You Agree With Madonna's "Ageist" Comments?

Madonna appeared on Nightline last night to talk about her new album and documentary, I Am Because We Are. I was sad to hear her say that she likes her thighs now because they "aren't as chubby" as they used to be, but I did like what she had to say about the double standard that aging women face:

I don't think we live in just a sexist society, we live in an ageist society, connected to women. I think women in an unconscious way are valued for their youth, youthful beauty, not so much for their wisdom and experience. Hopefully, we're going to change all that.

Madonna went on to point out that people are hyping her upcoming 50th birthday, but that the same fuss isn't made over older male rock stars such as David Bowie and Mick Jagger. I think she has a point. Do you?


24Jenna 24Jenna 9 years
There's nothing new under the sun and this "double standard thinking" has been around biblical times and before! People like Oprah Winfrey, Katie Couric, Judge Judy, Catherine Crier, Queen Latifah have all utilized their talents through oportunities or increased education. Those women who rely solely on their own looks buy the lie that is perpetuated by the mass media or fields of entertainment that a woman's worth or status is through her looks! Women are their own worst enemies and tend to let others do their own thinking for them! Rationalizations such as "not feminine", not sociable, not part of the crowd all show to others that women tend to be "we" thinkers instead of "me" thinkers. Until women take themselves seriously as something more that looks, boobs.....then men will not take them seriously either!
divingthewall divingthewall 9 years
Madonna is right. Unfortunately this has been going on for ages. Look back at fairy tales(not just Disney's versions) such as Snow White, Rapunzel, and Cinderella we were brainwashed with this as children. Will the times every change?
AKirstin AKirstin 9 years
I agree with geeksugar and sundaygreen.
Kaciegrrl Kaciegrrl 9 years
"Hopefully we're going to change all that." How - by injecting yourself with Botox to compete with the 25 year olds? I'm all for looking good, but practice what you preach.
GlowingMoon GlowingMoon 9 years
I agree with Madonna to a certain extent. I think society values youthful beauty AND wisdom and experience. Within a woman, those traits are NOT mutually exclusive. I think a women (if she truly wants to be) can embody all those qualities. Also, that same woman can be kind and benevolent. To me, a woman can be beautiful on the outside AND inside.
Iveenia Iveenia 9 years
In one way - she is right - on the other hand: we create our own ways in thinking good or bad - so it is better to color our THOUGHTS positively - because then age is not a matter of importance anymore - when we are happy - all is happy - our skin - our appearances EVERYTHING is younger and sparkling - so we will just look amazingly attractive!
sundaygreen sundaygreen 9 years
saying that she 'dresses/acts like a 20 year old' is the exact problem.
mrscaru mrscaru 9 years
This is new? People have been arguing about this for years. But Madonna just got a ton of plastic surgery, so I don't know how she's not being hypocritical.
lizlee89 lizlee89 9 years
as much as I can't stand her, she's totally right, except that I think that double-standard comes from people - from within their own insecurities with getting old - and that the movie/music/fashion industry perpetuates that to make money. we need to stop glorifying only the young and start appreciating age and the wisdom and experience and beauty that comes with it. and, you know, no matter how much older she gets (not that 50 is old at all), she still looks amazing...
andrennabird andrennabird 9 years
I've never seen her look more beautiful, in my opinion. It's inspirational.
bribri08 bribri08 9 years
I do believe that we do live in a society where age is everything. Event though Maddona really has no problems with age, she can always have her make-up artist and plastic surgery, her nutritionist to help her with keeping healthy. Older woman are not glorified as they should be, age is beauty and wisdom.
Marci Marci 9 years
Even People Magazine does these cover stories of Fabulous at Forty or Fifty, and it's always about famous women - never men. The emphasis in on youth is what makes everyone so afraid of aging.
cupcake_ cupcake_ 9 years
I definitely agree with what she said. But I also agree with Joyfularius...
Joyfularius Joyfularius 9 years
I think we definitely lve in an ageist society but it annoys me that Madonna says this but then clearly goes for botox and buys into the anti-ageing culture.
agirlsgottaeat agirlsgottaeat 9 years
GeekSugar I totally Agree with you!! Being a 40 something women I've always looked up to Madonna. I love her independent spirit and her ability to continue to grow and change over the years. And whether it is Hillary, Barack or John I've been saying the same thing in regards to how the country may look at a Woman President. As one who worked with the Boys I know only too well how hard it can be to be thought competent.
jaethefirst jaethefirst 9 years
People (egotistical men, mostly) are generally threatened (or made uncomfortable) by older, more powerful women. It contradicts there egoic upbringing, and their imposed feelings towards women Perhaps. I don't know. Madonna: I hope she never stops dancing. She inspires me. She denies the norms, and it allows for the possibility of a new tomorrow. I adore her, truly. Peace and love. J.
kerri69 kerri69 9 years
i admire her she has been very successful in her work, and she has worked hard for what she has got and she is smart
MissMarisol MissMarisol 9 years
What is wrong with her acting the way she does? She is a successful woman and she should be allowed to do what she wants when she wants. I think she has earned that right. I agree that people make a big deal that she is turning 50 and IMO, she doesn't look it. Good for her!
abbs5522 abbs5522 9 years
I think that people are making a big deal over her turning 50 because she has had such a great career, she is still relivant, she is still making hits, and she still looks great. When a woman still has a career and is still powerful and popular at the age of 50 it is a great accomplishment and something to make a big deal over. There are many powerful and popular 50 year old musicians but few woman. That is what all the fuss is over in my opinion.
Renees3 Renees3 9 years
While I agree we put unrealistic expectations on older women to look younger, I don't think bringing Mick or David Bowie into means anything. Neither of them are even REMOTELY in the spotlight as much as her. When do you see them on the red carpet? They aren't as huge as her and therefore aren't as big news. I just am not a big fan of hers I feel like she acts like she's better than. And I personally liked her body better when she had a LITTLE fat on it. Now she's manly looking
Callie325 Callie325 9 years
I'd agree more with her if she didn't conform so much to the societal expectations -- she clearly puts a lot of time and effort into looking "good." She's almost inhumanly fit, and she hates her (rock hard, gorgeous) thighs. She has made a career of exploiting her sexuality (and everyone else's) for a combination of titillation and shock value posing as liberation and sexual agency. In sum, I don't disagree with her (though 65-y-o Mick Jagger rocking out HAS gotten its share of guffaws/appreciation), but I think she's playing along with all the expectations instead of really breaking down doors. The chubby thighs thing is disappointing. I hope she's just pretending to be modest. Because her bod is rockin' and if she hates it ... argh.
doogirl doogirl 9 years
I think she's right. Sad but true. It explains the older man/much younger woman pairings in movies that we always see. However you never see a younger man and older woman. But I'm rather appalled at Madonna's comment about her thighs not being as chubby as they once were. When did she ever have chubby thighs???
Bookish Bookish 9 years
I think she's completely right. It's a shame.
Bisque Bisque 9 years
Whenever I see News Anchors on CNN or other news channels, it sort of reaffirms the points concerning ageism in females. How many times have I seen white haired male anchors paired up with younger female news anchors? How many times have I heard people bash a female anchor for looks, but not the male (which really does look significantly worse). It seems as if people are okay with men aging and women they don't want to see as much. While I don't take Madonna very seriously in her career and somehow with her statements, because she looks a bit like a wax doll, I do very much believe it holds merit.
Tech Tech 9 years
I don't think she necessarily acts "like a 20-year-old" --in general, I think she dresses pretty appropriately, especially for someone with her rockin' body. Yeah, she dances like a younger generation in her videos, but she can nail it and it's what sells, but I think it's ageist to assume that she "acts" younger at all when her profession is as a pop singer. On stage, she's ageless, in life--she's a wife and mother. She's absolutely right about the ageism--and I think it does completely tie into sexism, from the way people tired of Britney when she wasn't a little naif anymore to Rush Limbaugh's quote about citizens not liking Hillary Clinton for President because they don't want to see an older woman age.
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