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Jat09 Jat09 9 years
I love Oprah, no shes not going to change who I might vote for, but its nice to hear other peoples opinions. I love how people complain on here. If you are that mad why waste your time writing stuff on here.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
I really don't understand why you would be "afraid" of him. Most people that run for office have been working hard in politics for years before they run, it is a job requirement. Plus, I don't see how it is to his detriment that he has been working hard to make communities better places to live. I would love to hear why you think differently. Not to be snarky, but out of genuine curiousity.
tiff58 tiff58 9 years
I agree with you Betty in that his campaign for President has probably been going on for 15 years. I think that is often true of candidates. In fact, I think that what Al Gore is doing right now is his campaign for the next Presidential election. I always have and always will admire what Oprah has made of her life. I do not agree with her choice of a Presidential candidate, however. I think that her endorsement matters...but not THAT much.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
It affects everyone even though so many choose to ignore because of the whole money=power theory....which is partly true. If more voices would speak out I am certain that change is possible and if not ... well like I said Im moving to Canada bwahahahha
Jinx Jinx 9 years
Spew Away, I agree with you that we need a healthier interest in politics and how it affects us. I'm on the outside, looking in, as far as the Presidential race, but who is elected definately affects me here.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
I dont think she will be threat at all. He will never get my vote just because I enjoy her book club ha ha ha. If you research enough there is a lot more to Barack then what is on his website. His running is a 15 year plot, the books, the speeches and his support are all part of it. Im not really a conspiracy theorist but this candidate along with a few others scare me. I really dont care what anyone thinks of my opinion at this point... lol. Im going to spew spew away on I urge others to do! Jinx you rock!
Jinx Jinx 9 years
For sure Country Betty, I found your list interesting to say the least. I only meant I thought this was the norm for every candidate. I find it extremely interesting that Oprah is found as such a "threat". I've never witnessed this before in regards to celebrity backing.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Jinx someone made a comment a few posts back that he wasnt corporate back.. that was the reason for my post on the itemized contributions. It was it is.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Maybe not Citizensugar but have confirmation that the News and Politics site is in the works...YAY!
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
HautesHusband ...Getting people engaged and curious about our leaders is a win for all of us, whether you like Obama or not. I'd love to see more of it. We all should. Couldnt have said it better myself.
sexyeyes sexyeyes 9 years
I agree with Jinxy
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
Its Time for The Oprah HOOK UPPPPPPP!!! Not in a million years would i vote for Obama..and i dont give a rip about anything Oprah endorses.
Jinx Jinx 9 years
Candidates are always supported by corporate backers, and celebrities, I don't see it any different with Barack.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Thanks to this blog my boyfriend and I were up till Midnight talking about this election. No No Jill its ok, I think my message to you cleared that all up. This is a thread that is needed and the conversation yesterday was great!
Arthur Arthur 9 years
I think that a Governor's experience is more relevant to the President of the US. A State Governor, like the President, is an executive office. Senators have a legislative role not an executive role. My guess is that more of the former Presidents' pasts included being state governor than included being a Senator. Good for Oprah! If some of her audience develops an interest in politics and learns how to stay informed as a result, that would be a good thing. PS: for the record, I can name at least a few senators Harry Ried Majority Leader from Nevada Danniel Inouye of HI he was in the Ken Burns WWII series that was just on PBS Frank Lautenburg of NJ met him briefly when I was like 12 Orrin Hatch of Utah He makes CD's of him singing. I think that's funny. I could keep going...
hautehusband hautehusband 9 years
Fun thread. LOL at the member who commented "Whew! Just wait for CitizenSugar!" Heh. So true. If the genius of "Oprah is a bloated, self-serving righteous cow" and "Oprah is a bloated tick" is any indication, things there are sure to be juicy. On the plus side, though, I'm absolutely encouraged by folks who are digging around enough to learn about the issues. No matter where you fall in the political spectrum, that's awesome. Haute77 was absolutely correct when she noted that millions of Americans just don't give a damn about current events around the world. The facts back it up. The Pew Research Center conducted a poll in April 2007 and showed that 31% of the public couldn't name the Vice President. WTF? A full one-third ... of Americans ... don't know that our VP is Dick Cheney? Huh? And this was in April 2007, not right after these folks got elected in 2000? Have we not all at least enjoyed the Bush & Cheney imitations on SNL in the last 7 years? (Oh, right, nobody watches SNL anymore ...) Moreover, American voter turnout horribly low compared to other democracies. Many European countries regularly have 80% or more of their citizens out to vote. In America, we call it a good year if we hit 50%. Anyway, if a third of us can't name our Vice President, it's not a stretch to say that we're probably not hip to other facts, like what our senators and other elected leaders are up to. And if we don't know, then when they screw up, it's OK. They stay in power ... things don't change ... and we care less ... which keeps the same people in power ... so things don't change ... then we care even less ... eh, you see where this is going. The real point of this whole Oprah/Obama thing is this: Oprah will get a few more people to pay attention and think about current events and their leaders. Maybe not a lot, but a few. Yes, it's sad that it takes Oprah to make this happen, but hey. If those folks are being brought into the fold for the first time, paying attention for the first time, then that's the magic. That's what matters. It's the same reason that bringing YouTube into the mix on the debates was great. The YouTube brand will make a few more people stop and go "hmmm" and check these folks out. Again, maybe not a lot, but a few. Getting people engaged and curious about our leaders is a win for all of us, whether you like Obama or not. I'd love to see more of it. We all should.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Country Betty, I wasn't mad so I hope that wasn't directed towards me! Sorry if I came across that way!!!! "the war has to end, im just not 100% on the Exit Strategy I agree with at this time." I REALLY agree with this. It is a tough issue. From my research, it appears to me that there is no "good" solution. We can't win there. There are too many people in the region who feel the US is forcing their morality on them. We can show them the way all we want, but if they don't want democracy, we can't force it on them. That is why I think regional cooperation is key. Non-Iraqis are fighting us there, because as neighbors they have a vested interest in how things turn out. As a country, we need to acknowledge that and work with it. Working against it hasn't worked so far! I also think that it is impossible to keep the number of troops we have over there for any period of time. The troops are already depleated, and at home in the US we are so vulnerable for disaster! I was once in a disaster where I would not have had drinking water if it was not for the National Guard. I live in CA, and we didn't have enough National Guard to help with the devestating wild fires earlier this year. I agree with you SO MUCH when you say it is great to have discussions like these. I am going to be re-evaluating my opinion so many times over the course of the next year! It is a great thing to discuss, evaluate, and evolve!
tkoblondee tkoblondee 9 years
He'll win. And he'll have Oprah to thank.
sashak sashak 9 years
Pad, ditto on John Edwards :D
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
I think tomorrow there is going to be a new group Sugars against Betty lol. Well I hope not .. the fact is I care as do you Jill that is apparent. Conversations like these make a difference in some small way no? Because here I am a person who knows nothing about the war in Iraq yet I have spent the last 4 hrs researching it. That has to count for something. And Jill there are millions out there just like me who want change all around. IMO the war has to end, im just not 100% on the Exit Strategy I agree with at this time.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Dont get mad ... did I not admit its something I really know nothing about. Im here to listen and open to your views. Thats why I asked how you feel.
ashopaholic ashopaholic 9 years
Love Obama but don't think he needs to use the O-bomb...interesting to see what will happen in the polls.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Country Betty, he doesn't suggest that all US forces leave Iraq. There is a difference between combat forces, and those that would be there for humanitarian and war trial issues. He has said many times that special ops would need to remain there. And I don't think that he has a fantasy about everyone singing in harmony...but right now a huge majority of the violence is from surrounding areas wanting to be heard. None of the factions in Iraq are working together because they are all being pulled by outside interests. Plus, the stats show that more troops equals more violence. A lot of it is caused, simply because we are there. Ugh, more later! I really want to discuss this and all of its elements, though!
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
I know this is a key issue, but when all is said and done there are other issues at hand and for now my focus is on them. The War, its cause and its end are sketchy for me. I have an emotional point of view and a realistic point of view.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Ok Tell me Jill how exactly would we confront the humanitarian disaster in Iraq, and hold accountable any perpetrators of war crimes without our Troops? Do you really believe in his fantasy that the presidential leadership will be able to surge diplomacy with all of the nations of the region on behalf of a new regional security compact. That is taken from your site there.. Listen Im not trying to justify the war.. Im trying to look at this from all views ... thats all. Like I said earlier I only no what the media portrays as far as the war goes.. its hard for me to speak. But my gut feel is that there has to be some way to finish what we set out to do. Im not saying Bush's approach was right, and if I had to make a judgment call I would not say the war was justified but whats done is done and now we need to focus on mending this somehow. In a perfect world it would be great if all opposing views would work towards a common goal objectively and rationally. I dont know anyone who has died in Iraq however I know a few that have proudly served.
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