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Lost Episode Eight: "LaFleur"

Lost Episode Eight: "LaFleur"

This just might be my favorite kind of Lost episode — all Sawyer, all the time. We get to find out what the heck went on on the island while the Oceanic Six were on the mainland, doing their respective things. So the story of Miles, Juliet, Faraday and Sawyer continues and we meet a few more Dharma Initiative people (Dharmites? Dharmaheads?).

As is the case every week, I'm just trying to process everything now, in the harsh post-Lost morning light. After the jump I'm trying to divide up what goes on in the show during the "Three Years Earlier" sections and what happens during the "Three Years Later" sections. To take a look and share your thoughts,


First off, before that "final" flash that lands the group on the island in 1974, they find themselves in a time/place where there's a giant statue. Probably safe to say this will tie into the four-toed statue that we've glimpsed before and that the show creators have promised to bring back somehow. And now, the headaches and nosebleeds have stopped — Juliet thinks it's over, "John did it."

Three Years Earlier — 1974

  • Faraday is despondent over Charlotte's death, and he confirms that "Wherever we are — whenever we are now — we're here for good." Later on, in a sweet/sad moment he sees a little redheaded child that he thinks is Charlotte.
  • We meet some Dharma folks, primarily Amy (whose husband Paul is killed by two Others, before the two Others are killed by Sawyer and Juliet), and Horace. Amy leads the group through the "sonic fence" — they all collapse and Amy goes through unharmed, taking out earplugs.
  • Sawyer wakes up on a couch with Horace watching him (this exact interaction will be replayed later but in reverse, with Horace waking up hungover and Sawyer watching him). Sawyer lies to Horace, calling himself Mr. LaFleur ("It's Creole, I improvised") and saying he was on a salvage vessel, "looking for a famous lost wreck. It's an old slaver, out of Portsmouth, England, called the Black Rock." Horace instructs Sawyer to get on the submarine leaving in the morning for Tahiti because only Dharma Initiaive people can stay and Sawyer is "not Dharma material."
  • I enjoy a good voice of reason every once in a while on this show, like when Miles wonders about the sub to Tahiti: "How is that bad news?" Of course, Sawyer follows up with a classic name-calling: "Hold your horses, Bonsai, no one's getting on a sub."
  • Richard Alpert shows up and tells Horace that the fence "may keep other things out but not us. The only thing that does keep us out, Horace, is our truce, which you've now broken." Horace says a bunch of Dharma stuff to his "people," like "Call the Arrow. Tell them we're at Condition One. Take the heavy ordinance. And make sure the fence is at maximum." Sawyer goes out and talks to Alpert (or, haha, "your buddy out there with the eyeliner"), who says he still needs some kind of justice for his two men who were killed. Also, he wants the body of Amy's husband. Amy agrees to let him have it, though she takes an ankh necklace from Paul first.
  • Horace softens a bit toward Sawyer, saying he can stay two weeks, look for the rest of his people and wait for the sub to return. Juliet wants to leave on the next sub, but Sawyer convinces her to stay the two weeks with him. Awww, so ridiculously cute when he asks her "Who's gonna get my back?" I love the Sawyer-Juliet pair-up.

Three Years Later — 1977

  • It was driving me insane trying to figure out where I know Phil from, the Dharma guy with the eyebrows who busts in on the other guy, Jerry, and the girl, Rosie, dancing. I finally got it: The actor is Patrick Fischler, and he plays Jimmy Barrett on Mad Men. Man, that drove me nuts.
  • Also, I got a kick out of this thing on Lostpedia about the possible connection between the characters of Phil, Jerry and Rosie and the Grateful Dead.
  • Anywho, "now" (in 1977), Horace and Amy are having a baby together, though they get into a fight about Paul when Horace finds the ankh necklace and Horace gets fall-down drunk — just in time for Amy to go into labor.
  • And now Sawyer — oh, excuse me, Mr. LaFleur — appears to be a leader within the Dharma folks. Miles even calls him "Boss!" Miles, Jin and Sawyer are all seen wearing those Dharma coveralls, and both Sawyer and Jin have now driven around in those new-looking Dharma vans.
  • Sawyer with glasses or without glasses? Discuss.
  • Though resistant to the idea at first (with very good reason, I'd say), Juliet ends up performing a C-section and, to her surprise and relief, both Amy and her new baby boy survive just fine.
  • Later, Sawyer nearly kills me with adorableness when he goes to Juliet's with a flower and tells her she was amazing. They are all schmoopy-lovey-dovey — even trading "I love you"s.
  • And anyone who ever learned what "foreshadowing" meant probably saw the Kate-Sawyer reunion coming a mile away during Sawyer's little speech to Horace about whether three years is long enough to get over someone:

    I had a thing for a girl once. And I had a shot at her. But I didn't take it. And for a little while I'd lay in bed every night wondering if it was a mistake. Wondering if I'd ever stop thinking about her. But now I can barely remember what she looks like. Her face is . . . she's just gone, and she ain't never coming back. So. Is three years long enough to get over someone? Absolutely.

  • Soon after, Sawyer gets the call about Jin finding Hurley, Jack, and that girl he's so over, Kate. They all meet up in "the North Valley."

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Join The Conversation
catita85 catita85 8 years
I can´t believe how amazing the lost writers are.. I love this show and loved Mr LaFleur, I mean Sawyer.
Sugie Sugie 8 years
Blix, I think it is possible that Penelope's mother was one of the Others. Remember when Daniel told the blond girl with the accent she reminded him of someone- that might be Penny's mother, as she was there with Widmore. But, that would mean that Daniel and Penny would have met in past, which would be possible as Daniel Faraday and Widmore have worked together.
Blix Blix 8 years
Nestor Carbonell was in Suddenly Susan with Brooke Shields. His eyelashes were dark like that then too. Nice genes! I liked Sawyer and Juliette together. What were they to do, being together day in and day out. Love the one you're with... Would Charles Widmore's daughter Penny possibly have been involved with the island as a child?
createMH createMH 8 years
Love this show, love this column and love this comment thread!
356UIK 356UIK 8 years
LMAO!! Awesome :) That's all I could think of when I saw him.
syako syako 8 years
^ :rotfl: I was wondering the SAME thing this week.
356UIK 356UIK 8 years
When is Daniel gonna take off his tie?
Jasmin14921509 Jasmin14921509 8 years
julieapfel - that's a really good theory. totally would make sense ... and it solves the conundrum of whether little ben and big ben co-exist in the 70s (they wouldn't, per your theory). I like it!
julieapfel julieapfel 8 years
maybe Locke and Ben didn't time travel to be with the rest (Jack, Kate, Hurley etc) because he wasn't one of the original Oceanic 6...?
pxpxcutie pxpxcutie 8 years
"why Locke isn't with them I don't know." I think it might be because he was dead. Charlotte's body stopped time travelling once she had died as well (that's why her body "disappeared"). :)
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 8 years
Sorry for the 3 post, but yeah the plane and the survivors are in a diffrent time meaning Ben and Locke are in a diffrent time. I remeber Cesar saying he saw Hurley and some of the O6 "disapear" before the plane crashed. So I think that the O6 were "teleported" off the plan and reunited with the other Losties....why Locke isn't with them I don't know.
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 8 years
Yeah I also noticed the significance of the Egyptian stuff. and The Ankh also is a symbol of the connection between men/women....the symbol of life... eternal life. Very LOST!
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 8 years
Juilet and Sawyer were bound to happen under the circumstances...but I'm still not a fan of hers. I can't decide if Hurley or Saywer gets the best lines but last night Sawyer stole the show he had some insane one liners. I am still laughing at "your buddy out there with the eyeliner on" ahahaha! I'm just wondering how the dynamics of the group is going to be now that Jack "The leader" is back and Saywer has proven himself a great leader in his own right?
mandajean_98 mandajean_98 8 years
Jelly888 Jelly888 8 years
I think Locke didn't bring Walt back because he genuinely thought that he had been through enough for a little boy. And this way too, as least he still thinks that his dad is alive. I think Locke just wanted Walt to have a normal life. But maybe I am wrong. You never know on this show!
zeze zeze 8 years
Sugie, my sister is obsessed with that question...why didn't they bring Walt too? She thinks that Lock's excuse of "he's been through enough" and just wanted to check up on him is BS - and even if it wasn't, Ben would have no scruples what so ever about bringing Walt back if it meant an easier road to the island for him. Maybe it has to do with him being "special" and he might challenge Ben or Lock in the future and neither of them want to risk it.
Sugie Sugie 8 years
Juliet and Sawyer are great together! I would like them to stay together, but I don't think that will happen with Kate and Jack back involving this quad love triangle. A side thought, does anyone think Walt was on Flight 316? If Eloise said they needed to recreate the original flight, shouldn't Walt be on the flight?
Miss-Senorita Miss-Senorita 8 years
I like Sawyer/Juliet pairing it seems functional and dare I speak too soon healthier than some of the "relationship" on the show.
catmouse catmouse 8 years
i love this show!! its the only time i talk back to the television. so much fun to watch. Also concerning the EYELINER situation. i saw nestor carbonell in a spanish interview and when the reporter asked him if he wore any he responded he just has waaaay too many lower
Countess827 Countess827 8 years
Richard Alpert...AKA Nestor Carbonell was the mayor in The Dark Knight. He had the very similar eyeliner look, which made me think, you know, I wonder if that is actually makeup. I think it helps define his face though. Anyway, that has nothing to do with the lost episode asides from Sawyer's nickname for him. About the episode-I was soo confused. Thanks for explaining the three year flashback and forth. I needed the clarification.
a-million-suns a-million-suns 8 years
I'm SO glad to see that other people like the Juliet/Sawyer pairing! My friends were groaning in protest the whole time, but I thought it was great and wondered if I was the only one. I have a feeling it's gonna get messed up by Kate somehow, though. They've kept hinting and hinting at Sawyer's lingering feelings for her, and that "Omg I can't believe it I forgot how beautiful she was" look he gives her at the end made me angry, haha. Personally I'd like to see Kate and Jack together and Juliet and Sawyer. I've forgotten what the rest of the episode was about, haha.
pxpxcutie pxpxcutie 8 years
This is the first time I've actually liked Sawyer. lol. I like seeing his softer side... And the plane landed on the hydra island (the little island near the main one). I'm pretty sure the plane landed in a different time as Jack, Hurley, Kate, and Sayid and that's why the Dharma people haven't noticed. :)
zeze zeze 8 years
Well hasn't the plane crashed there just a few days ago, maybe they haven't discovered it yet...or maybe because of the truce they are not allowed in that area. And I also felt like I've seen the necklace before.
syako syako 8 years
My husband and I thought we had seen it before too!
geekinout geekinout 8 years
Ok. When Amy took the ankh necklace off of Paul I started freaking out because I could have sworn that we have seen someone else wearing it on the show, like one of our Losties. But no one else seems to be mentioning it beyond its symbolism, so maybe I was wrong? Did anyone else think that when they saw the necklace? I've scoured pictures trying to find it on someone - who I can only assume ends up being Amy and Horace's son...Help!
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