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Ahmadinejad to Developing Nations: Big Powers Going Down

As host of the Nonaligned Movement (NAM) ministerial conference, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad blasted the West for bullying third world countries and making problems like AIDS worse. In a speech to the 118 nation members, Ahmadinejad said AIDS was the result of world conditions "imposed by big powers."

The Iranian president, who wants NAM members to vote Iran onto the UN Security Council as a nonpermanent member, said the Security Council was a tool of world powers. But he assured the group that the bully nations are on the decline and called on developing nations to play a greater role in addressing world conflicts. Ahmadinejad said:

The big powers are going down. They have come to the end of their power, and the world is on the verge of entering a new, promising era.

Representatives from 118 NAM member states including 60 foreign ministers are taking part in the event.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivers his speech.

Arab League Secretary General Amr Mussa and Iranian prominent MP, Alaeddin Boroujerdi listen to the speech.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad meets with Arab League Secretary General Amr Mussa (L).

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  shakes hands with Venezuela's Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro.

To find out more about NAM, and to see how AIDS targets one population more than others in the US,


Developing countries, who mostly share a critical view of the US and Western powers, make up NAM. At the fifteenth meeting of ministers, the members will be asked to approve a document. The released draft denounced "the categorization of countries as good or evil based on unilateral and unjustified criteria" among other things.

Back in the US, a new report shows that if black America were a country, it would rank sixteenth in the world in the number of people living with AIDS. Is Ahmadinejad onto something when he says people in power perpetuate conditions dangerous to the disadvantaged, or is he shifting the blame to where it suits his agenda?


alynn28 alynn28 9 years
hypno, Bush called Iran part of the " axis of evil" because the government IS EVIL. they start children off at an early age brainwashing them into believeing the west and isreal are evil and should be destroyed at all costs. Songs, poetry, games, tv shows all have something to do with hatred and glorifying jihad on the west and isreal. they kill and put their own people in poverty ( Palestinians ) and blame it on isreal. This kind of evil is very real, and its very scarey. and this goes for other countries too like egypt, pakistan, afghanistan etc. they censor the news, and even the mosques take part in the hatred for isreal and the US. with all that going on im not suprised they all hate us over there.i think Bush had very right to warn us about the danger the government poses to us and its own people.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
I will never stop this thread! It must escalate to the point of nuclear threats before I back down!
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Alright I here by shut down this thread. LOL! Let's go argue about something else, yeah?
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
I agree that I'm ignorant of my things in the world, but calling someone else ignorant, especially in the manner of "the ignorant people you can't reason with" is clearly intended as an insult. I don't mind the word in and of itself, but I do mind it being used as an insult. I agree I was only discussing half of the picture. I never disputed that.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Well IMO ignorant simply means one speaks/thinks false information or simply does not know, it does not mean that they're stupid in the least. I am ignorant of many things and I hope you don't feel that I was calling you ignorant pop because as I said you're right but to paint half a portrait simply leaves too much ambiguity when so much is at stake. And Bettyjane thank you for the support but it is probably best to refrain from calling people ignorant since most do not embrace it as an unavaoidable part of our existance as I do.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
Thanks lilkimbo. I agree. Name-calling never progresses any discussion. It only detracts from the issues at hand.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
By calling one person hypocritical I'm not saying others (including US) AREN'T! Nor am I saying we have been in the right in our foreign policy. Sigh. I'm out.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Now before I'm viewed as anti-U.S. let me just make it clear that I have no problem with anyone criticizing the leadership of Iran because there is certainly fuel for the fire. However, what I have a problem with is a one sided focus of the issue. You're right Ahmadinejad has been a hypocrite, but who else has been? It's true that Iranian arms dealers have snuck weapons into Iraq, but who else is guilty of weapons proliferation? As I said above I choose to place blame where blame belongs on both sides. If you're going to analyze a problem with the intent of contributing to a resolution than you've got to look at the truth accept the truth and use it as a consideration to the resolution. Society is caught up in the crippling grip of rhetoric that we to often fail to look at history as our guide. We need to be smarter than this because we are.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Oh I'm well aware of 1979 Matamoros and that was when Iran was under I different type of government structure as well. Different people, different government, different times.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
G I wonder why pop? Go figure.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
hypno, I'm not even engaging in an argument about "who started it." I'm just saying he's being hypocritical, which he is. And Matamoros is right. Iran has despised the US long before Bush came to power, and that kind of "Great Satan" rhetoric has been around for decades.
Matamoros Matamoros 9 years
Rantings of a madman. Why anyone pays attention to this delusional ass-clown is beyond me. As for hypnoticmix's allusion that Ahmadinejad's pugnaciousness is somehow a response to Bush's 'Axis of Evil' cliche, he must have been asleep back in 1979, when the regime launched into evil by kidnapping diplomatic staff in a US Embassy and holding them hostage for 444 days while then President Jimmy Carter - one of America's worst and most incompetent - cringed in terror, wet himself and did NOTHING. Civilizations rise and fall. Big deal. It's like predicting the tide. The US will decline because of creeping Socialism. This was feared by the founding fathers, predicted by the great Austrian Economist Joseph Schumpeter, Demonstrated to have occurred by Milton Friedman and initiated by FDR and the Democratic Party.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
With all do respect I think you have it backwards pop the bush administration made the axis of evil statement some time before Ahmadinejad responded in kind to the stupid rhetoric. This is my point we get caught up in this idiotic tit for tat and it no longer becomes about the original disagreement which becomes lost under layers and layers of hostility. We don't need to deal with that $#!+ and we need to recognize that we are just as much part of the problem as anyone involved. You can ride Georgies band wagon into the sunset if you want to, but I'm going to place blame where blame belongs on both sides. If we haven't learned yet that the more we meddle in the Middle East the worse off we are we really need to wake the hell up. What I find laughable is our governments chastising of Iranian arms dealers sneaking weapons into Iraq but if you look at our own history of global weapons proliferation it makes the frustration almost absurd. As for the points of the article the U.S. is not alone. First world nations need to come to the realization that shoulders get tired and poorer nations are getting tired of living by a structure that keeps them down. This is a valid criticism and this needs to be addressed.
blondie01 blondie01 9 years
I agree Alynn!
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
"Uhm does anyone remember the Axis of Evil comment?" Yeah, of course. But my point still stands. He's asking for one thing and doing another.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
"it continues to scare me how many americans would ever agree with anything this monster has to say." I'll agree that Saddam Husane was a monster. Other than running a strict theocrtic society how is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a monster? Anyone please.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
"Coming from a man who refers to American as the Great Satan, I'm pretty sure he's got nothing to stand on there." Uhm does anyone remember the Axis of Evil comment? This is what I'm so frustrated with when it comes to U.S. & Iran, Israel & Muslim countries. We stand by and allow this constant ridiculous tit for tat to escalate into military action and then we clutch our perils in surprise at the outcome it's silly.
alynn28 alynn28 9 years
If this man has his way, we'll all be dead. period. it continues to scare me how many americans would ever agree with anything this monster has to say. hes basically saying " Your all going down. We will destroy you eventually," and people arent outraged?? why do people think we dont want them to have nuclear weapons?? we have given billions to other countries in need and then some, and have come to the aid of countries that needed us in war. ( the french would all be speaking german now if we hadnt stepped in ) what has he ever done to help his people or make us trust Iran?? he allows gays and women to be killed and treated as sub humans. maybe he should look at his own country before he opens his mouth and starts spilling his hate talk." a new promising era" what? oh u mean where anyone non muslim or gay is tortured and killed, women get their privates cut off and forced into arranged marriges or get honor killed if they dont? ugh, this man makes me sick.
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
yeah, that happened in the 70's and 80's. I remember Ryan White. Precautions are in place now to keep that from happening again. And yes, if a spouse gives it to the one they love, then he got it from somewhere.
gitsie123 gitsie123 9 years
Completely shifting the blame. No one made those people have unprotected sex (I don't want to argue about rape, I know it happens, it isn't a large percentage.) *sigh* there are so many things wrong with this statement. What about all those people who got AIDS from their spouse, I guess its their fault they didn't use protection. Or the all the hemophiliacs who got HIV from blood transfusions (hemophilia is common among African Americans). Unprotected sex is not the only way to transmit HIV, and I think it is really horrible that you are blaming the victim. Maybe you should do some research on the history of AIDS before you make such an uninformed statement.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I agree, pop. To some extent I agree with what he's saying, but I believe he actually does his cause a great disservice by attaching his name to it.
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
silversnowflake, you say, "do you remember what happened with the minorities years ago?" What event are you recalling with that statement? It's a bit vague. Honestly, I have to laugh at this statement: "The released draft denounced 'the categorization of countries as good or evil based on unilateral and unjustified criteria' among other things." Coming from a man who refers to American as the Great Satan, I'm pretty sure he's got nothing to stand on there.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Sorry, I guess I thought when you said, ", every single race/culture in the world that is not white has had its own share of injustice," you were excluding those who are white. Thanks for clarifying.
silversnowflake silversnowflake 9 years
I didn't and I don't. I just see the bigger picture where Caucasians have discriminated against every piece of the world that they did not yet 'own'.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I wouldn't exclude exclude Caucasians from having had their own share of injustice when considering world history.
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