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All In a Name: Obama's Simple Plan to Reach Out to Muslims

All In a Name: Obama's Simple Plan to Reach Out to Muslims

Just like all presidents before him, the President-elect plans to be sworn in using his full name: Barack Hussein Obama. Although Obama said that by using his full name, he's just doing what every other president did, he also told the Chicago Tribune, that he has a unique opportunity to renovate relations with the Muslim world. He hopes to "create a relationship of mutual respect and partnership in countries and with peoples of goodwill who want their citizens and ours to prosper together."

Obama's Muslim-community outreach won't end on Inauguration Day. The president-elect also plans to deliver a major address in an Islamic capital as president.

The election of the first African-American president with the middle name "Hussein" surely reveals an openness not seen in many other countries. Maybe all those Obama supporters who changed their middle names to Hussein on Facebook actually reduced the stigma, transforming the name from a campaign liability to a tool of US diplomacy.

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lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
We need a Canadian version of Barack Obama! (or anything else that would get Canadians to care about politics again).
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
"We pay pennies for goods, food, etc. compared to them. They also make lower wages overall even though they have higher minimum wages." That would be because of the taxes they have to pay, correct? I agree that we Americans are more consumer driven than most Europeans, but that doesn't mean we are bad, or should be the object of their disdain.
stephley stephley 8 years
"...although Canadians definitely deserve the flack right now since our Prime Minister is a joke." Not wanting to miss an opportunity to diss Canada, I'll point out that Harper's no W, but that's about all the flack we have any right to give anyone else's joke.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Lildorothy, I see what you mean, now. I agree that it is not the job of the Canadian or American (or any other) government to raise standards of living in other countries. However, I think you'd agree that as human beings we have a moral obligation to try and help other people around the world gain access to those things you mentioned (water, food, etc.).
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
I do think that the standards of living in other countries do need to be raised. Is that the job of the US or Canada? Not necessarily, although I do believe we have a responsibility to lobby other governments and adjust our foreign relations policies. The whole reason I started this argument is because UnDave made a comment about it being unacceptable for other countries to leverage off Americans in order to prosper... I just wish some people would recognize that this is exactly what many Western countries have done in the past. I think it's hypocritical to say "I get exploit you, but you can't exploit me". That may or may not have been what UnDave intended when he made his original comment, but that's what I understood him to say. We all need to remember that communication is 50% intention and 50% interpretation. [Great quote by Ian Percy: "We judge others by their behavior. We judge ourselves by our intentions."] I'm also not referring to material goods as a necessity to live, but rather running (and clean) water, nutritional food, shelter... the basics. If the wage you earn does not give you the means to afford these necessities (and $42 an hour in a factory in Vietnam does not), than that is unacceptable to me. If that wasn't clear, I apologize.
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 8 years
No worries lil...I was kidding too (mostly) :)
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Lildorothy, you're exactly right when you say "it's all relative". The standards of living in America are ridiculous compared to the standards of living in some third world countries. Does that mean in order to be acceptable we need to raise them up to our standard? Or is it just simply a relative view of what material goods are necessary to live?
mydiadem mydiadem 8 years
UnDave, you ever been to Europe? We pay pennies for goods, food, etc. compared to them. They also make lower wages overall even though they have higher minimum wages. As a result they don't spend themselves into mountains of debt, live in smaller houses, and aren't as consumerist. I generally think people overseas that don't like Americans feel that way because they think Americans feel they are better than them, know better about how the world should run than them (and go out into the world to impose that vision), and deserve more than them (uber cheap goods mostly made my child labor and other exploded adults in 3rd world countries).
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
Haha blue I was actually being sarcastic with that comment... although Canadians definitely deserve the flack right now since our Prime Minister is a joke. One great thing about being Canadian though is I get to make negative comments about our government without being called unpatriotic. I love my apathetic country.
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 8 years
"...and no, that's not because I'm Canadian and my second favourite sport - behind hockey - is picking on Americans" Funny. My second favorite sport (as an American) is picking on Canadians! ;)
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
Oh and I have good friends who live in the Dominican Republic... they're considered to be well off by their neighbors. They have a two-room shack instead of a one-room shack. Living like kings you say? I suppose it's all relative.
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
Michelin, I should clarify... $42 a month is not a feasible wage to live on in a consumer-based society. Working in a factory = participating in a consumer-based society. Those who work in factories do so as a means of income... which means they are not accumulating income by other means (agriculture, for example) and therefore have no other means to sustain themselves. If your argument is that remote tribes in the middle of no where can live on less than $42 a month, your point is only somewhat taken... they do not rely on the exchange of money for goods so I just don't see how the comparison is valid. Furthermore, its not just a coincidence that the countries that have the lowest incomes experience the highest percentages of poverty. Starvation, unplanned pregnancy, disease, etc. all accompany poverty. (I'm lucky enough to live in a country that provides health care free of charge, but that's not a reality for the majority of people, so even if i was impoverished, at least I would know I have the ability to receive treatment if necessary). I've done my research on this topic and have written a number of papers on the subject. I have the knowledge to back up my opinion.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Lildorothy, I'm confused as to how you can say "$42 a month is not a livable wage anywhere" and also call somebody else 'ignorant'. There are places in the world where you could live like a king on $42 a month.
Myst Myst 8 years
Great points lildorothy. Always I like Canadians ;)
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
Addition to my last comment: Canadians benefit from exploiting workers overseas too (Yes, I recognize that!) We all like to exploit the underdog... isn't that what our countries were founded on? Small pox infested blankets anyone?
Myst Myst 8 years
lmao you can not be serious. People don't like Americans like you. Arrogant and ignorant. And yes Lildorothy, we are the proletariat of the board ;)
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
$42 a month is not a livable wage anywhere... that's why people live in shacks. People overseas don't have low opinions of Americans because they make more... I live in Canada, make enough money to live comfortably, and comments like yours give me low opinions as well ... and no, that's not because I'm Canadian and my second favourite sport - behind hockey - is picking on Americans - Many of the commenters on this site have restored my faith in Americans. (Shout out to stephley and myst!) Anyway, back to the original reason for this argument... you most recently said "If you want to create a business overseas that pays more than that, manufacturing the same product, you're welcome to, but good luck trying to turn the profit." Again, Americans are benefitting from poor conditions in other countries... and if you think this is moral/ethical than you're being a hypocrite (see your original comment about "Muslim countries"). Oh and the personal attack comment wasn't actually directed at you... it was a dig at past threads so no harm intended in your general direction ;)
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
"See Dave, that's exactly why so many people overseas have such low opinions of Americans. Its thoughts like that. Do yourself a favor and book a trip to one of the non tourist sections overseas and come back with that same argument." Right. People overseas have a low opinion because we make so much more, regardless of the fact that we pay so much more for everything as well. People overseas don't like Americans because we have so much wealth, and they are jealous. "What wage could you live with UnDave? Does $42 a month sound good to you?" $42/mo is not liveable here in America, where we have government mandated minimum wages driving up the costs of everything. If you want to create a business overseas that pays more than that, manufacturing the same product, you're welcome to, but good luck trying to turn the profit. "*be less ignorant about why people work in the conditions that they do (god forbid that be seen as a personal attack)." :oy:
stephley stephley 8 years
Yea Lildoro & Myst!
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
*be less ignorant about why people work in the conditions that they do (god forbid that be seen as a personal attack). Myst, seems like we've co-opted this thread as a plight for the proletariat :)
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
What wage could you live with UnDave? Does $42 a month sound good to you? We demand cheap goods which causes companies to sign contracts with factories overseas where governments do not regulate work conditions. I suppose these people do have a choice: starve or make $42 a month. You need to remember that not everyone affords the luxuries that some people live with. If you don't care about how these people live, that's fine... but do try and be less ignorant.
Myst Myst 8 years
See Dave, that's exactly why so many people overseas have such low opinions of Americans. Its thoughts like that. Do yourself a favor and book a trip to one of the non tourist sections overseas and come back with that same argument.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
So, what wage could they live with? Did we build the factory and say "You have to work here, and this is all we are going to pay you"? I don't think so.
Myst Myst 8 years
you read my mind lildorothy. Just plain ignorance.
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
UnDave, you seriously need to do some research before declaring that Southeast Asia laborers are "comfortable" accepting low wages. Pure ignorance.
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