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Analysis to the Biden Palin Debate

Debate Rebate: Our Reactions to the Big Biden vs. Palin

Whoa. That debate was like running a half-marathon at a 5k pace. It was hotly anticipated and proved to be even more intense than expected. Your fantastic comments during the debate came almost faster than the candidates' answers themselves. Here's what we thought of the big #2 showdown:

This was a fast and furious debate. It barely paused long enough to get questions uttered before zooming on. Perhaps the questions over Gwen Ifill's motives were wildly unnecessary as she was competent though mostly periphery to the sheer pace. The questions she asked were fair and the candidates only really loosely followed them anyway. Sarah Palin was firmly self-assured as soon as she settled in, and both Palin and Biden hammered home a 100-mile-an-hour back-up of the arguments for their respective presidential candidates, exactly what they were supposed to do.

Joe Biden brought a similar performance to what we're used to seeing from him, the wild card of course was Palin. Her grasp of foreign policy facts was bullet-point perfect tonight, and her accessibility and — I'll say it — personality really shone through. Republicans were facing an uphill climb, stymied a bit by recent poll numbers and Palin's interview performances — Palin took that challenge, and especially in the first half of the debate, hit it home.

To see the rest of my thoughts, and what Liberty has to say,


During the foreign policy section, Biden hotly attacked on Afghanistan, saying, "Facts matter Gwen . . . our commanding general in Afghanistan said the surge principals will not work in Afghanistan." But Palin came right back, directly refuting Biden's claims leaving him quieter and repeating himself. She couched her poison arrows with a huge dose of honey, appealing to the twin desires of her supporters — to love her and leave Biden crippled. Her performance read exactly like that. She turned a question about her weaknesses into a soaring endorsement for what's good about America, "Democracy, tolerance, and freedom." If the phrase weren't already assigned to another point in history, I'd say of Sarah Palin tonight, "Mission accomplished."

Sidestepping Sarah Palin, Joe Biden hit John McCain's maverick reputation extremely hard. On both economic and foreign policy issues, Biden gave some strong concrete examples of how McCain mirrors George W. Bush, and how the Obama ticket differs. While Sarah Palin avoided answering the "how" of many questions, Biden offered details. Viewers may have gotten lost in a (sometimes) unemotional argument, but I think Biden's details helped affirm the narrative that the Obama/Biden ticket is more prepared to face the serious challenges.

Sarah Palin, the maverick's running mate, came out strong on issues like Americans living within their means, paying less taxes, and working toward energy independence. She often got those points by avoiding tough questions and reverting back to her strengths.

I'm sure the fact that they made it through without any major gaffes (maybe a couple minor ones), comes as a relief to both VP candidates!

What did you think? Was there a winner? Was this a game changer?

The opinions expressed here are those of the authors, CitizenSugar and LibertySugar, and do not necessarily reflect the positions of Sugar Inc.


Isista Isista 9 years
Sorry, just the fact that she couldn't actually DEBATE, she had all preplanned lines written on paper for her, I think Biden won by a landslide. I don't love him, I just find her utterly moronic.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 9 years
And Biden did any different? That is the deal at a debate, hit your candidates platform. Biden did the same thing. They both did better than BO and JM. And I have to say, if Palin had gotten the articles of the constitution wrong, like Biden, it would be front page news.
Wicked Wicked 9 years
I know someone who managed to sneak into the debate without a ticket. Pretty hilarious.
ElectricMadison ElectricMadison 9 years
WEll, Palin did a great job of talking straight into the camera and looking smary while Biden answered all the questions with concrete information. She a Republican barbie doll, who recites all their phrases about "freedom", "Democracy", "patriotism", etc. without actually explaining in a real way how she will do things.
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 9 years
"I'm a PARENT with a special needs child, a son going to war", Blue, if she did say that and Biden did as she did last night a moved right a long without acknowledging it he would have been deemed sexist. It's a lot of "reverse" sexism going on in this race as well and it should be offensive to both men and women.
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 9 years
Jenin that's the part that got to me as well. It feelt like she really needed to remind everyone that different, she's a woman, a mother, and that Biden couldn't relate to what she was going through. Then he says this: "But the notion that somehow, because I'm a man, I don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone, I don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to -- is going to make it -- I understand." And she just moves right it was no big deal! If she'd said "I'm a PARENT with a special needs child, a son going to war", I wouldn't have been upset about it.
True-Song True-Song 9 years
No, what changed? And yeah, the debate made me like Biden even more.
jenintx jenintx 9 years
{did the way that Palin went right into a "Maverick Spill" less than 2 seconds after he got choked up change her opinion about her?} honestly, i didn't even catch that and we didn't discuss it. i was so verklempt over the teary-eyed Biden, it took me a second to regain my composure. plus, i think started glazing over after about the 15th "maverick" and since that was at the end of the debate, i was almost comatose. :)
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 9 years
Has anyone else noticed the community rules changed as well
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 9 years
I third that tia citizen is full of happiness bringing everyone together :hug:
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
You are NOT allowed to take a break yy. How would I survive with you and rac gone?
yesteryear yesteryear 9 years
ruh roh, my comments are getting deleted. im going to take a break i think.
True-Song True-Song 9 years
Does it seem weird to anyone else that the Community Rules are in a blog, and they don't match up with the TOS page?
kimsy kimsy 9 years
{I could never vote for someone who can't pronounce the word nuclear.} You said it, Stephley! Hooked on Phonics definitely did NOT work for her (or Dubya, for that matter).
Community-Manager Community-Manager 9 years
Hey Everyone, Even ten pages in, let's try to stick to topic! Always report anyone who is breaking our Community Rules! Thanks TeamSugar
True-Song True-Song 9 years
It's probably me...
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 9 years
Tia, Are you saying that someone is HL in disguise?
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
Seconded, tia.
tiabia tiabia 9 years
This comment isn't directly at any particular person, but seriously...I'm over users with multiple accounts. Why do you need an additional account to "back up" your statements. Do it yourself. Ok, now I'm done!!! :-)
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 9 years
Jenix did the way that Palin went right into a "Maverick Spill" less than 2 seconds after he got choked up change her opinion about her? It changed mind, I think some of the softness, motherly, folksy stuff was lost all in that one moment
bastylefilegirl bastylefilegirl 9 years
There's people who live without lights and water in big cities/right outside the big cities and that's people who are living below the poverty line. This is a group of people who have been forgotten by both campaigns, and as an orginal support for Edwards I think his view on this particular subject is missing!
jenintx jenintx 9 years
*i should add that some of those people without indoor plumbing are seasonal workers, but 6 months without running water is 6 months too many, according to jenintx. I wanted to add that I cringed at the overuse of catchphrases, especially by Palin, but also with the use of "fundamental" by Biden. And my heart broke when he choked up. A coworker and I were discussing this morning that it (and the way he handled himself/held back) really changed her perception of Joe Biden.
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 9 years
you about summed it up mydia, thanks wade
jenintx jenintx 9 years
I'm only comment 363 but I'm tossing in my two cents: Palin did well. She didn't come close to beating Biden, but she accomplished what she needed to: legitimizing/redeeming herself after the fiascos that were the Gibson and Couric interviews. I'm from a small town (4000 and stagnating!) and I've kinda lost the overall message behind why that was important, but not all small-town people have small minds (though some do, admittedly). Not all think like Hotlanta, though. I was in Alaska last year, and I can say without a doubt that small-town Alaska isn't like small-town "lower 48." People still live without indoor plumbing in some areas (the town I was in, some did and some didn't).
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