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A couple made an Internet sensation of itself today when its site,, hit the mainstream. Pete and Alisha Arnold are asking the public to vote on whether or not they should abort their 17-week-old fetus. On week 20 — the last week abortion's legal in their home state of Minnesota — they'll close the poll, weigh results, and decide to get an an abortion or not.

Immediately, this sounds like a pro-life prank, a parable about what happens when people are allowed to choose. Yet Gawker's Adrien Chen interviewed the couple, and they were quite convincing. "It's definitely not a pro-life campaign," Alisha said. "I believe in a woman's right to choose."

But then husband Pete peppers the conversation with this nonsensical quote. "Here's a chance where people can be heard about whether they are pro-choice or whether they are pro-life, and it makes a difference in the real world."


That makes no sense unless they're trying to make a pro-life point, so I've rounded up seven reasons why this whole story is fake. Read them below.

  • Site's rhetoric: They've named the baby Wiggles, and underneath each ultrasound is a description of what he's doing: "Close up of baby's hand and mouth" and "Baby Wiggles waves hello."
  • Baby's sex: Gawker reports the couple says the baby is a boy; however, if Alisha Arnold is really just short of 17 weeks pregnant then it would be too early to tell. WebMD says sex can usually be determined by 20 weeks while Parents magazine says between 18 to 20.
  • Frequency of ultrasounds: Most pregnant women don't have their first ultrasound until 20 weeks unless they opt for a 12- or 13-week one that tests for abnormalities. Since Alisha says she's had two miscarriages, we'll assume she's high risk, but really ultrasounds every week?
  • Ownership of URL: Double X looked up who owned and found whoever owns it has paid extra for anonymity. Yet the Arnolds are totally open about everything else?
  • Aborting after miscarriages: If Alisha's had two miscarriages then she either wants a baby or is very bad with birth control. Either way, I can't imagine she'd abort on a lark (i.e. a vote) after three pregnancies or wait until the last possible moment, when abortions are most invasive.
  • Excessive use of "quotation marks": This may sound silly, but there's a point. Double X pointed out that putting quotes around "the pill" was the mark of a pro-lifer; afterward, I noticed the Arnolds were using quotes around "abort" and their baby's nickname "Wiggles" or sometimes "Baby Wiggles." Who does that when they're serious?
  • Say "baby": I have no judgment about how long a woman calls what's growing inside her a fetus or how early she calls it baby. Yet I've spent time around women who've had abortions and "baby" is usually not their word of choice.

Do you believe it?

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cotedazur cotedazur 6 years
I had never heard of this before seeing this post - honestly, this cannot be real. What motivation could people possibly have for letting anonymous strangers decide whether they abort their fetus or not? I'm absolutely, completely pro-choice, but it is a PERSONAL decision and has nothing to do with anyone else.
Bettye-Wayne Bettye-Wayne 6 years
Leaving my personal feelings on abortion out of this because it's irrelevant... What if they don't abort? Then the kid will grow up knowing that he was a publicity stunt...even worse, if this is serious (and I am extremely skeptical of that) he'll know that his parents would have aborted him if enough whackjobs on the internet told them to... whatever $$$$$ they make of this, they better save it for therapy. I also don't understand why anyone would think abortion is the best choice for a married couple who wants children and is able to support them. Hey good news for Baby Wiggles, 'give birth' is winning by a landslide 80%.
JessicaM25 JessicaM25 6 years
Fake, to many if's and buts about specific details. People are only as good as the attention they receive in terms of sites.
Studio16 Studio16 6 years
I just don't understand it. They say that they want to start a family and they've got a perfectly healthy baby...what's their reason for aborting? Just for fun. I could understand if they were like, "We don't want this kid, abort or put up for adoption?" but they're just straight up weird.
BellaVida12 BellaVida12 6 years
horrible all around
kindo1313 kindo1313 6 years
It is possible to accurately determine the sex of your baby as early as 13 weeks. There are local ultrasound places local to me who claim over 90% accuracy rate. One of them is frequented by friends of mine whenever they are pregnant and the accuracy there has been 100%! Doctors usually wait to tell you the sex until they do the mid-pregnancy ultrasound, which happens anywhere from 15-20 weeks. Most of my friends have found out from their doctors around 16 weeks.
bransugar79 bransugar79 6 years
Ultrasound techs will sometimes attempt to tell the sex as early as 12 weeks which can be inaccurate. Also as someone deemed high risk myself I had bi weekly ultrasounds all the way through the beginning of my third trimester. I also have referred to my baby as a baby since I got pregnant. I really don't understand what's so crazy about that. I believe that everyone has a right to make their own choices and it seems to me that this couple is looking for publicity no matter what side of the argument they fall on. And why does it seem to be ok to make fun of someone who would choose not to have an abortion if you are pro choice? Isn't the point that you want to have a choice no matter what that is?
chadwick2dot0 chadwick2dot0 6 years
THINK PEOPLE!!!! The domain for was registered with in May of 2010. The birthornot Youtube channel was also created in May of 2010. If she is only 17 weeks pregnant now, and her last pregnancy ended in miscarriage in April of 2010 according to the about Pete and Alisha section of then why were the website and youtube account created in May?!? Also, Pete's seemingly right-wing pro-life views on abortion can be found on another blog where he repeatedly mentions the hypocrisy of the "pro-abortion crowd": (Under authors: "The Pete" links back to a blog titled ) This is ALL an elaborate pro-life campaign. I promise you... either that, or can you imagine the ad revenue they are bringing in now that 4chan has gotten a hold of this and they have almost 90,000 votes/clicks?!? FAKE!!!
imLissy imLissy 6 years
either way it's sick. "Ownership of URL: Double X looked up who owned and found whoever owns it has paid extra for anonymity. Yet the Arnolds are totally open about everything else?" this isn't a good reason. If you search for the domain I registered for my wedding, you can find my phone number and home address (which is not outdated.) This is information you have to provide when you register a domain and this is how my stalker found me six years ago. That's why, for my other domain, I pay a fee to keep my personal information private.
Miss-Bree Miss-Bree 6 years
I think it's absolutely a pro-life stunt. It really is clear from the terminology they use alone.... They go past just referring to the fetus as "baby" but describe how it's growing and in doing so, they're noting the formation of bones, it's measurable size, etc. If they weren't pro-lifers, they wouldn't be pointing out these qualities or giving a personality to the fetus. Their posts remind me of Sue Chen in Juno, "You're baby has fingernails, you know!" They might as well just hold up a sign outside of Planned Parenthood along side Ann Coulter.
Pistil Pistil 6 years
It almost makes more sense if they were making a point about pro-choice... ex. if abortions were illegal, you'd have that choice taken away from you, the same way you would if you let random idiots on the internet make the decision for you. But I don't know why I'm trying to make sense of this crap.
ShaynaLeah ShaynaLeah 6 years
For the anti-choice, ultrasounds are a fetish object, so the ridiculous number of them is definitely a tip off!
SusanTeufel SusanTeufel 6 years
As someone who's had three miscarriages and has PCOS... this HAS to be fake if they are entertaining the idea of aborting.
katialoves katialoves 6 years
#7, that a little much~ it does sound fake. if they actually go through with it, imagine the guilt later
danakscully64 danakscully64 6 years
This is my first time hearing about this. I don't care either way, it just seems like a fake site to stir up trouble and get publicity.
weffie weffie 6 years
Even for Pro-Life wingnuts these people are just plain stupid... I hope it's stillborn.
amber512 amber512 6 years
The whole thing really bothers me.
Pistil Pistil 6 years
:oy: Don't people have better things to do with their time? I hope it's just a publicity stunt and I really hope even the pregnancy is fake. These people are too nutty to be parents.
snarkypants snarkypants 6 years
i actually don't think it's a pro-life thing. i think it's more of an attention wh*re thing.
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