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kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
I don't understand the negative comments about HRC's looks. She's not an unattractive woman. :?
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Wow.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
God Citizen way to scare the bejesus out of me with a gigatic picture of that harpy....
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
It still blows my mind that there are people who don't get what the morning after pill is! How could you be against something if you don't know what it is? I mean, I would think especially people who are anti-choice would like it because it means that in the case of a rape, someone could have access to a non-abortive means of preventing pregnancy after rape. I feel marriage is a choice also, not a consequence! (Unless you are Bristol Palin...) Great Sommelier- that could be the issue (malpractice insurance) but the way the doctor talked to me...just made me feel dirty and incapable of being trusted to take the necessary precautions, I can't think of a better way to describe it. If it were an insurance issue, I wish he would have come out and said it, but maybe he thought that would be tacky, "I'm worried you'll sue me and my insurance won't cover it." The birth defects from Accutane are absolutely no joke, so I don't want anyone to think I'm not taking them seriously. An LDR is basically like forced celibacy though so...I thought at least one good thing could come from being sex-free! Either way, it really stinks, and I think I'm going to Canada to get it prescribed.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
I don't deny it's possible that I could change my mind, but my mom tells me I've been like this since I was little. I'm just not a caretaker. When I adopted a dog, I got a grown dog because I didn't want to deal with puppy issues. I've spoken to my parents already about elder care, because I know I'm not the person for the job. I like some kids (in the same way I like some people), but I know I'm not a parent in the same way some people know they're just not cat people.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
The great thing about that is you can change your mind later. One of my best friends in HS didn't want to EVER have children, but is now a proud father (They had begun trying, and had difficulties).
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Yes, I realize that I'm extremely lucky to have found someone who shares my goal to remain childfree. We're a minority, and it's a relationship dealbreaker, so I'm happy to have found a childfree partner at a young age.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Well thank goodness you've got a boyfriend who is equally as committed to not having children, then.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
I used that, too, but I would always shut it off and be like, yeah, I'll go get it in a second...
Michelann Michelann 8 years
"So he gets my prescription filled and brings me the pill every morning with a glass of water " Haha, Torg, I love it! I find that the alarm function on my cell phone is the perfect reminder :)
True-Song True-Song 8 years
I think not knowing them because your wife can't use hormones is a much better reason than "they're for women." I'd stick with that in polite conversation. : ) But I'm new-school and have always involved the Man (the only person I've had relations with) in all of my reproductive decisions. He actually suggested I switch forms of birth control, and I agreed only if he would be in charge of it. So he gets my prescription filled and brings me the pill every morning with a glass of water because when I tried to take a pill every morning I was lucky to remember it by noon if at all. So, instead of just putting me in charge because I'm a woman, it made sense to put the most routined and generally responsible person in our relationship in charge. I'm happy to meet another condom devotee. It just makes me happy to be able to physically see all the baby-making-potential go into the trash (aaand now I'm over sharing). I think a LOT of people still think emergency contraception is RU 486. As with almost every issue, there is a problem with education. I'm guessing you'd agree that if we all started with the same set of true facts, most debates wouldn't get so heated.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Sometimes the consequence is marriage. ;)
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I don't know them because they are specifically for the woman, and my wife can't use any kind of hormones, so we use condoms. I guess I was thinking of RU-486. I'm glad to hear you are committed to not getting pregnant, and I'm not saying that you should not have sex until you are ready to get pregnant. I'm just saying that the decision is to have sex, and there are consequences for that decision sometimes. :)
True-Song True-Song 8 years
The ring's brand name is NuvaRing. It's a vaginal ring that releases the same hormones as in a regular birth control pill, but since it's absorbed continually over three weeks instead of taking one pill very day, it is able to be effective with much lower doses. To be honest, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, it doesn't surprise me that you don't know what some of those are. I know a lot about birth control because I'm committed to not getting pregnant. So, to be honest, when people say or imply that I should be ready to have a baby if I'm having sex puts me off. Should I abstain from sex for my entire life because I don't want to ever give birth? And it surprises me to hear you say you're okay with all kinds of bc except the morning after pill. The morning after pill is exactly the same hormones as in regular birth control. (In fact, if you take regular birth control pills, in some cases you can just take 10 of your regular pill and it will be exactly the same. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's akin to taking five 200 mg advil instead of one 1000 mg prescription ibuprofen.) Are you thinking of RU-486? That was the so-called abortion pill that, if I recall correctly, signaled the body to menstruate, so if an embryo was implanted it would come out of the body with the menstrual fluid. Current "morning after pills," most commonly known as Plan B, work much like regular birth control pills. They prevent an egg from being released in the first place, primarily. If an egg is released, it may prevent sperm from reaching the egg or it may prevent the zygote from implanting, but it will not affect an implanted embryo.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Mich - I know, I'm just tired of women talking about pregnancy like it's a choice. Sex is a choice, pregnancy is a consequence. Torg - I have no idea what some of those forms of birth control are, like what is a ring? I have no problem with those as long as they aren't equivalent to the "morning after" pill. Disclaimer: I am not talking about rape or incest.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Dave, I should also have the choice to use the ring, the shot, the patch, an implant, a diaphragm, male condoms, female condoms, Plan B, a hormonal IUD, a non-hormonal IUD, any of the three types of vasectomies for my partner, any of the dozens of types of pills, a tubal ligation or Essure. It's my opinion that if any of these options is taken off the table, then yes, my reproductive choices are being limited. I've said this before: I don't ever plan to have children. I do, however, plan to have a lot more sex with my partner. I don't see why anyone would want to limit the options I have to protect myself from a highly unwanted pregnancy.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
UnDave, you know you're just asking for it when you tell women that they can be personally responsible for their bodies.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I find it interesting that women feel that they don't have a decision in their reproductive health. You have a choice. You can either have sex, or not have sex. If you choose to have sex, the consequesnces could be conception, or STD. That is where the choice should be, not after the consequence has happened.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Agreed Mich. But snowbunny, when you say came out, do you mean someone told you? Because my doctor said their malpractice insurance won't cover accutane, same as sterilization. Because of the risk of birth defects.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
If snowbunny could decide for herself what medicines she wanted to take, this wouldn't be a problem :)
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
I don't know, I needed a prescription for Accutane, and I finally had the insurance to pay for it. I called the office of a local derm. that my insurance accepted, and asked if they prescribed the drug. They said yes. I went in, spent my $40 and lost 2 hours of work to find out that the doctor did not prescribe the medication to my demographic, "pre-pregnant women." Apparently any woman between 18-40 was "pre-pregnant" to the doctor, regardless of our intentions to get pregnant. I raised a HUGE stink, I mean, epic, and it eventually came out that the doctor was worried that women who get pregnant on Accutane (it causes serious, serious birth defects) would need to get abortions, and he was morally opposed to that. I was so angry, and told him that my fiance lives on the opposite side of the country, that I was on birth control anyway, in case I, ya know, got raped, (for period control reasons), that we would abstain from sex for the next 5 months if it meant taking the drug. He, "didn't trust women to make those decisions." There is an extensive pregnancy prevention program you have to undertake while taking accutane, complete with blood tests, etc. You have to pledge to the gov't. to use at least two forms of birth control. But it was the entire IDEA that a woman might have to get an abortion that he objected to, even though, even OFF the Accutane, if I got pregnant right now, and abortion would be an option. Unfortch, my insurance has me stuck going to him, as my face slowly scars more and more. I just think that doctors can't get involved in morality. What if they refuse to treat a Muslim? They have to treat prison convicts, gang members, etc. all the time. It is their job to be professional and detach their personal moral beliefs and simply do their job to the best of their ability.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
That's just it, under our laws they are free to decide. And why would it be a problem to wait a week or two to be sterilized. And abortion isn't covered by insurance anyway.
yesteryear yesteryear 8 years
GS, i see where you're coming from... but it's not the free market! many medical plans don't allow you to just go find a new doctor. i have great insurance through my employer, but to change doctors last year when i moved 2 miles down the road, it took 3 phone calls, waiting a week for a form in the mail, and then after all that i had wait another week to get a "new patient" appointment just to fill out paperwork and only then could i actually see the dr. to ask about my actual medical condition. it's not that easy. sorry, there's no wiggle-room here. if you don't want to practice medicine, as it's practiced in this country, under our laws, then don't become a dr. it's that easy.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
I;ll say it again. It is fear mongering. Just trying to get people worked up when there is no evidence it will change anyones lives at all.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
That's just it yy. There are no facts on how this will change anything. I'm sure anti-abortion docs aren't working over at the planned parenthood. And obgyn's can choose whether or not to sterilize, I know that is a personal subject for you, but no doctor should have to perform a non-life threatening procedure. It is the free market. Go find someone else.
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