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Christian Group Wants Obama To Be Known As "The Abortion President"

Christian Group Wants Obama To Be Known As "The Abortion President"

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Christian Group Wants Obama To Be Known As "The Abortion President" The Christian Defense Coalition, who are known to shock folks from time to time, have come up with a new campaign called: "Barack Obama: The Abortion President." They are going to make clear that Obama wants taxpayers to foot the bill on abortions. They are also going to lay bare his record on abortion. They'll conduct a news conference Tuesday in front of the Hart Senate Office Building where Obama's Senate office is located.

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lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
OK, I lied, one more thing. Where did you get the information that abortions are only 3% of what Planned Parenthood does? I have heard much higher numbers from other sources in the past.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
One more thing, don't presume you know what I do and do not forgive. I already stated that I think this ad is childish. However, I do not find it fictitious. You can disagree with the way information is presented but still not find it false.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
And pro-abortion and anti-abortion are the AP sanctioned terms, so according to the AP, Obama is pro-abortion.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Fictitious and misleading are both bad, but are still different. And most of these groups (although I can't speak specifically to this one because I haven't had the time to research it thoroughly) don't want Planned Parenthood to be shut down entirely, they want Planned Parenthood to stop providing abortions. It doesn't matter if abortions are a small portion of what Planned Parenthood does, if Obama supports continued tax money going to Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood continuing to provide abortions, he supports tax dollars paying for abortions. A lot of people don't have a problem with that. But to say it's false is untrue.
kastarte2 kastarte2 9 years
First he wants to ban crocs, now he's being called The Abortion President? Could I love this guy more? Seriously though, The Christian Defense Coalition is just making themselves look foolish by referring to Obama that way. They won't change anybody's stance or canidate. They will just get positive feedback from like minded individuals instead of bringing about the change they want to see.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
I think saying that Obama wants taxpayers to foot the bill for abortions is fictious. Funding Planned Parenthood is not truly funding abortions, especially considering that many Planned Parenthoods do not perform abortions and the majority of the services they do provide have nothing to do with abortions. Abortions are a small fraction of what they do (only 3%!). They also provide contraceptive services; emergency contraception; screening for breast, cervical and testicular cancers; pregnancy testing and pregnancy options counseling; testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases; sexuality education, menopause treatments; vasectomies and tubal ligations, etc. You might be able to forgive sloppy representation of where a politician stands, but I don't see it as beneficial at all. I think "ficticious" and "misleading" are both worthy of scorn. Obama is not pro-abortion. In their quest to stop 3% of PP's work, they are also preventing women from getting pap smears, treatment for their menopause, breast cancer exams, etc. Very noble. :oy:
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 9 years
Thanks, lil, for the clear up!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I don't think misleading and fictitious are the same thing. I still fail to see how this is fictitious.
liliblu liliblu 9 years
It's misleading because Obama is not running around promoting abortion. Believing women should have the right to choose is not the same as being pro abortion.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Jolie-yes and no. McCain pushed more in 2000 to have the Republican platform change to include exceptions for victims of rape, etc. McCain hasn't said much about those proposed changes this time around, but hasn't officially changed his position.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 9 years
Didn't McCain change his position on this from the 2000 campaign? I might be mistaken, but I thought I read that somewhere. This title is just an attempt to rally up the evangelicals.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I could be wrong, though. I am seriously asking if he is in favor of those things.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Is Obama in favor of continued funding for Planned Parenthood and of Planned Parenthood continuing to provide abortions? It is my understanding that he is. If he is, then he does want taxpayers to "foot the bill" for abortions.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Well first of all, calling him "The Abortion President" is misleading in itself. But I was more specifically talking about the part where they say that Obama wants taxpayers to "foot the bill" for abortions.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
Lilkimbo, don't be using your fancy college-learned logic on me. It won't work!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I know that, but I still think it's inaccurate to say he can't do anything about it. Not be able to do something directly does not equate to not being able to do anything at all.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
Wow. That wasn't supposed to be all italics. It looks like one big footnote. :jimmy: Jimmy, did you do that?
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
If the next president appoints the right sort of justices, maybe they'll overturn Roe, but it's still not the president's decision to make. He can't overturn starry decisis by executive action.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Ah, I see. :)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
And several SCOTUS justices will probably be retiring within the next four or eight years, so it's false to say that the next president will not be able to do anything about overturning Roe v. Wade.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
I was agreeing with you: "...I will readily admit that calling him 'The Abortion President' is childish"...
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I didn't say it wasn't childish. I asked what was fictitious.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
It's childish because abortion is legal. That's like saying Bush was the Handgun Killer President because handguns were legal while he was president. Obama can not do anything about overturning Roe v. Wade even if he wanted to, so it's not only childish, but it's misleading (surprise!) and wrong (wow!)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I am seriously asking, too, Betty. I mean, I will readily admit that calling him "The Abortion President" is childish and won't accomplish anything, but I don't see what is untrue about what they are saying.
Bettyesque Bettyesque 9 years
Rac you are a comedian! Um lilkim Im with you, what is not true?
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