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No Death Penalty, But Should Rapists Face Castration?

Convicted rapists and other sex offenders now face chemical castration in Louisiana, under legislation signed on the day the US Supreme Court struck down the state's child-rape death penalty. California was the first state to subject its sex offenders to the procedure popularized by the Nazis who wanted to prevent "undesirables" from procreating.

Upon signing the law, Louisiana's governor Bobby Jindal said: "I am glad we have taken such strong measures . . . to put a stop to these monsters’ brutal acts."

On a side note, Governor Jindal is all sorts of interesting. Currently the youngest US governor, and the nation's first of Indian decent, the potential McCain VP has defended intelligent design and written about his participation in an exorcism.

Not everyone supports chemical castration like Governor Jindal. While it can reduce physical urges, critics argue, psychological counseling is needed to address mental addiction behind assaults. Do you favor sentencing sex offenders to chemical castration?

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wellduh wellduh 8 years
In fact the Constitution amendment freeing blacks allows slavery as a punishment for crimes (look it up and be surprised). True justice would be a total physical makeover as women and then being made into public sex slaves for prisoners. And most psychologist are telling us that these guys are classic repressed gays trying to prove their manhood. We would actaully be helping them be their real self.
wellduh wellduh 8 years
Chemical castrastion is the same as NOT GUILTY. Because Viagra and even over the counter herbs can counter act the chemical castration. Ask Florida they have had scores of cases of counteraction or people simply not showing up to get their chemical castration renewed. Physical Castration should not be seen as barbaric or a "rights" violation given how many transgender people beg fo the operation. Think of it as court enforced THERAPY.
wellduh wellduh 8 years
Chemical castrastion is the same as NOT GUILTY. Because Viagra and even over the counter herbs can counter act the chemical castration. Ask Florida the have had scores of cases of counteraction or people simply not showing up to get their chemical castration renewed. Physical Castration should not be seen as barbaric or a "rights" violation given how many transgender people beg fo the operation. Think of it as court enforced THERAPY.
wellduh wellduh 8 years
Total physical castration. Testosterone causes violence in men and women. Remove the misregulated source and the weapon. We can then try to regulate the minimum dose for health that doesn't trigger violence in that person. In any case that person will no longer have the equipment to fully degrade via rape. Any subsequent artifical rape will then be clear sign that we should destroy that person as totally and unredeemably defective...and not someone at the mercy of natural hormones and a need for physical closeness. In today's world we can save eggs, ovaries, sperm, and testes in reproductive banks. So reproductive rights need not be violated should a single conviction be overturned. A second convcition should include loss of reproductive rights and genetic material turned over to researchers to see if they can track down any genetic defects contributiong to that person's behavior. To be honest in today's world, emotions and social frictions would be much safer if we spayed and neutered everyone. Reproduction would then tend to be much more rational and most domestic disturbances calmed.We have the technology. Why not use it?
medusaeny medusaeny 9 years
men are often thought to be occupied with their sexuality and ability to be sexual (viagra is a case in point) and so chemical castration could be an effective solution. and while sexual assault is not a crime of sexual desire, we have to ask ourselves why choose that option over beating a woman or child. i certainly dont believe that chemical castration is THE answer but if it is coupled with other types of treatment, including psychological, it could make a difference. and the gentleman who stated that child sexual assault cases are hard to prove is absolutely correct. there needs to be some proof or admission of guilt. this is the reason why most child sex offenders are not imprisoned. as much as i would like to think otherwise, not many child sex offenders will be affected by this ruling.
Jacobus Jacobus 9 years
Castration has the same problems as the death penalty that was struck down: 1. Only the Creator gives life; if the state takes it and THEN discovers they were wrong, they can't give it back. Same situation here. 2. Check out The Innocence Project; Police OFTEN nail the wrong person and assemble enough to convict them. Ignoring the possibility of DNA testing or applying it using questionable collection techniques (and prosecutorial logic) isn't unusual. Conviction may be the pure truth, or it may be they wanted to convict SOMEBODY. That's bad enough when it's prison for years. Would you be okay with yourself or a loved one being one of those "collateral damage" mistakes? 3. The Constitution is still right. 4. Serious offenders could be better monitored if this country would get off its stupid jag of classifying people as sex offenders who weren't trying to do anything TO other people (looked at the wrong website or peed somewhere they shouldn't while blind drunk or such). And no, I didn't. 5. Yes, if it was my kid I'd want to do something to him (or her, depending on what happened). But that in itself does not make it right.
ladychaos ladychaos 9 years
I'm not a huge supporter of the death penalty, but honestly repeat offenders of aggressive rapes, especially against children, should be killed. Just like with murder, they have ruined someone's life.
milandro milandro 9 years
I think that any act that kills someone's spirit should be dealt with harshly.
amybdk amybdk 9 years
Hmm.... A Clockwork Orange comes to mind.
Berlin Berlin 9 years
Look at the research...castration doesn't work
geebers geebers 9 years
I at first would be enraged and agree with this but the truth is - you cannot just treat a mental sickness and desire to hurt someone else with physical topical treatments. There needs to be psychological treatment as well.
MindayH MindayH 9 years
I don't think that even the strong supporters of chemical castration think it is a cure all solution. Because ultimately the decision to rape or molest someone is a decision made in your brain. Yes Chemical castration will reduce urges. If someone who has been convicted and served his sentence for raping a child and is going to be released whether we like it or not, then yes, I believe that they should be castrated - but I do think this is a band aid solution.
kh61582 kh61582 9 years
I don't think this should be a hard and fast rule for every rapist. For a child rapist and repeat offenders I think it's perfect appropriate. First time rapists should have a psych review first.
nateshatesh nateshatesh 9 years
Depo-Provera is ineffective and will not prevent molestation. Forced castration may have the adverse affect of angering a criminal, increasing his violent tendencies and lead to additional sexual abuse (2). Additionally, Depo-Provera is reversible. Therefore, unless injections are mandatory and monitored, pedophiles will not be "cured" by the drug therapy. The child molester will have renewed sexual fantasies and high levels of testosterone if the injections are discontinued (7). Joseph Frank Smith, a convicted child molester, became an advocate for chemical castration after undergoing the therapy in the 1980s. Smith stopped using the injections in 1989. In 1999, he was convicted for molesting a five-year old girl and immediately returned to prison (3). Depo-Provera also has caused side effects in some men "including depression, fatigue, diabetes, [and] blood clots" (2). Chemical castration may cause some detrimental effects in child molesters. Even tho this is not a cure and only just a treatment I feel as if this could be a good start and may could to further research to stop these monsters from getting the feeling of wanting to hurt a child. and yeah some say cut his stick and balls off and you don't have to have a stick and balls to rape a child but what this treatment does is, stop them from having the feeling to do it at all.
jessy777 jessy777 9 years
The problem is in the attacker's brain. How are we going to fix that? Just because a person can't use their "nature given equipment" to commit an assault doesn't mean they will stop. An aside, I find it surprising that McCain would consider Jindal for VP. I thought he would look at a more well established conservative player to woo voters who see McCain as too liberal.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Considering that other states already do this, I think it would be so helpful to see some unbiased research about the results (how many people, did they stay on the treatment, did it prevent another offense, etc.) I wish I had time to search around for it! I also wanted to note that this article makes it seem as if it is not a permanent "fix". They have to continue to get the shots, and it is something that changes their hormones...their plumbing remains untouched.
rabidmoon rabidmoon 9 years
For me a thought that was raised, reading the post and the comments..is "is chemical castration a punishment...or a treatment?" It seems to walk a thin grey line between them. A few years ago in Uni I made the point that when considering how crimes should be handled, in the context of therapy vs punishment (or in some cases, both), we should be looking at the recidivism rate of different types of crimes. In some cases, they are higher (robbery, auto theft, weapon crimes, rape) and I think the most vigorous punishment and perhaps therapy may be necessary to break the patterns. As to whether it is best handled by punishment, I think it depends on the motivation. People do not steal for the same reasons they rape; they do not murder for the same reasons they commit pedophilia. Some crimes are power crimes, some are borne out of insanity, and others still out of lifestyles and environments that make it all too easy to become society's predators. I am not excusing ANY crime with this statement, simply pointing out that they are not all created equal. According to the Bureau of Justice, sex offenders are about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison. As a woman, violence against my sex enrages me, regardless of its form. It sickens me that to this day, people can go to jail far longer for stealing, than rape. But all emotion aside, I can say with a calm head that if a criminal is likely to repeat a crime, then the mindset is native to the criminal, and it must be changed. Therapy or punishment, or both...whatever it takes, society MUST be sent a message that this will not be tolerated.
ladychaos ladychaos 9 years
@ Jude C...that was the impression I was under. But definitely with repeat offenders (see: R. Kelly) should be chemically castrated.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
*Side note: The first few times I heard the term "chemical castration," I thought that actually meant burning offenders' junk off with acid or something like that.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
I think the talk about technical statutory rape, like another poster's example of "an 18 year old having sex with a 15 year old girlfriend of his from high school," as opposed to child rape or violent sexual assault, is a bit moot. Different sentences are handed out for the same charges, depending on the heinousness of the specific crimes. Punishments vary. That article states that "The bill would allow judges to order chemical castrations" in cases of "aggravated rape, forcible rape, second-degree sexual battery, aggravated incest and aggravated crimes against nature," not that "the bill requires judges to order chemical castrations for every sex crime conviction." It is only mandatory on the second offense, according to that article, and that means it would anyway only apply to repeat offenders, not to unfortunate 18-year-olds who get arrested once for having sex with their 15-year-old girlfriends. Also, chemical castration is a drug treatment. It's not as if offenders are having their junk sawed off with rusty butter knives and no anesthesia.
Frank-y-Ava Frank-y-Ava 9 years
It's unconstitutional to legally castrate someone and rape is about the power not the sex. There is also a chance that the person could be wrongly convicted and your castrating an innocent person. And what if it's a woman would you tie her tubes, and what if it was stat. rape?? You would castrate a 19 year-old boy for sleeping with his 16 or 17 year-old girlfriend??? That would be a complete violation of any first-world's constitution.
babyhiccups babyhiccups 9 years
with the increase of women in the workplace and a shift from the traditional male-at-work-mom-stays-home environment, we are seeing more and more heinous sex crimes being committed from men. they cannot handle the shift. "ohjeeze" brings up an excellent point, but we need to focus on the majority issue here...adult MEN raping CHILDREN! as our culture begins to break through more and more of the "traditional" sex & gender roles, we are left addressing the consequences with far fewer options. there are too many opinions & oppositions to ideas and less action. child rape is one of those horrible "side-effects" of this role change. it's time to take serious actions and redirect the moral compass for the future of our nation's children. although controversial, it's definately time to make a change that doesn't have sympathy for repeat offenders.
ladychaos ladychaos 9 years
Um...so those cases of rape that are stupid (i.e. an 18 year old having sex with a 15 year old girlfriend of his from high school) should be castrated because although it was consensual, she wasn't of consensual age?
janneth janneth 9 years
I think Depo Provera is used for chemical castration for males, and as birth control for women.
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