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This is a book I will be picking up — The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives, by historian Nick Turse. Apparently it's impossible to own an i-Pod and be a true pacifist.

The Pentagon has significant contracts with companies ranging from Starbucks, to PepsiCo, to Nestle, to Apple, and Google. The book explores the web of corporations and products that are tied to America's mammoth defense budget. It's not just the missile and equipment makers like Lockheed Martin and Boeing that feed the Military Industrial Complex.

I came across a very informative interview with the author in Mother Jones. For some of the highlights concerning yuppies, Hollywood, and the web,


  • On the yuppie progressive who gets up in the morning and pats himself on the back for not participating in the Complex: "As I mention in the book, unless you're a very committed anarcho-primitivist, it's almost impossible for an American to really unplug from the complex. It's just so invasive. It pops up in so many places — Christian bookstores in Mississippi, or BBQ joints in Louisiana — and these companies don't advertise it. Unless you're combing the Pentagon's list of contractors, it's almost impossible to tell how deep the rabbit hole goes."
  • On the military and Hollywood: "The military has a very long relationship with Hollywood, that dates back to the silent film era. In recent years they've developed a more sophisticated relationship. It used to be done on an ad hoc basis, and now the military's set up a one-stop shop in Hollywood. This office has liaisons for the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines. So if you have a script, you bring it into them if you're seeking military hardware like planes and helicopters, or want to film on a base. The military is also a good source for large numbers of movie extras. They'll review your script, and if they like it, they'll let you use their machinery, and their bases, and their people. If they find parts objectionable, they'll note them and give it back to you, and if you make the changes they recommend, they'll give you the equipment you're requesting."
  • On the military and the web: "The military operates a tremendous number of websites. They have their own sites, but they're also operating sites that look like civilian sites. They have recruiting sites that look like they're designed to give career advice to teenagers, and they mention asking a guidance counselor to take a certain type of test. What they don't tell you is that it's the armed forces entrance exam. They operate some websites for overseas audiences that look like news portals, but are actually DoD [Department of Defense] propaganda sites. You have to search the fine print in one portion of the site to find that it's created by the Pentagon."

Whether or not the pervasion of the military into the private sector is beneficial to American society, I think it is important to get a clearer picture of how the society actually functions.


hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
If you read the article, you'll see that there is an anti-military slant to this presentation. ie. "how going to the movies encourages the iraq war" "pentagon had invaded the civilian sphere" "military socialism" No information especially about the government today is free from biased and this book is not either. So while you may find it fascinating and tell us that we don't know its happening, many of us DO know its happening, but since we understand that military is not a killing machine, we don't mind and would rather not read drivel that will tell us how awful the gov't and those who work for it are.
Matdredalia Matdredalia 9 years
I wanted to point out that the nastiness in the comments is really unnecessary. Never once does Liberty say she disapproves of what is formally known as the Military Industrial Complex, nor does she disapprove of the Military. I think the point is, that if you look at the book from a Political Science or Sociological PoV (Liberty was a Poli Sci major, and I'm a Soc major, to explain why I'm using those examples), it is not a matter of right or wrong. It is not a matter of support or disapproval, it is simply a matter of: This is how things work. This is something that many people don't understand or even know is happening. This is something that should have a little more light shed on it, because, as a Sociologist, I find it completely and utterly fascinating. I find it fascinating because the connections between different aspects of our society are so profound, and go so much deeper than most of us ever even realize. Maybe it's just me, but I find this fascinating, not in any kind of political agenda sense, but simply in the "Society is fascinating" sense.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
"Why is it that Sugar will post an aritcle like this that is left up to discussion but then post an article that says that Obama is pretty much lying his butt off by saying that he will withdraw troops in nine months " Obama hasn't been lying. That isn't HIS plan, it is someone else's opinion. From the article: The paper, obtained by The New York Sun, was written by Colin Kahl for the center-left Center for a New American Security. Both Mr. Kahl and a senior Obama campaign adviser reached yesterday said the paper does not represent the campaign’s Iraq position. “We have experts and scholars with a range of views and Barack appreciates this range of views. They are in think tanks and like me they write in their own voice, they are people who do their independent scholarship. Barack Obama cannot be held accountable for what we all write,” she said. Ms. Rice said she had not seen the paper, which is marked as a draft and “not for attribution without author’s permission.” Mr. Kahl yesterday said, “This has absolutely zero to do with the campaign.”
Jillness Jillness 9 years
This reminds me that I really need to read "The Shock Doctrine". I have heard so many good things about it.
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
Cabaker, where do I get the hippies? I'd like to join!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
YOu as in both of you!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
You are officially aproved!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :sneaky:
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
me too! whee!
carlitacarlo carlitacarlo 9 years
cine-lover, that's great! i just requested membership, cant wait to be a part of the group!
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Yes we got 2 new people today!!! 2 closer to world domination!!!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
carlitacarlo, it is a group I started. You can become a member. And please feel free to post whatever you would like.
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Oh liberty, I cannot make it public, but feel free to PM me and I will fill you in. Kris, just go to my profile and go to my groups. You will see the icon for Conservative sugar. Click on that, then ask to be a member and I will approve you.
carlitacarlo carlitacarlo 9 years
what is conservative sugar? i would like to be a member too!
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
you have to make over 60k, wear an american flag lapel pin, and sacrifice hippies to our god, Reagan.... or you can just click on Join... ya know, whatever!
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
i just still wish someone would enlighten me as to why people are offended by the absolut map of old mexico. it's been confusing me all day. sometimes it's the little things that send me over the edge.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
i am not yet a member! how does one become a member?
piper23 piper23 9 years
Thanks, Citizen! You rock!
LibertySugar LibertySugar 9 years
cine_lover, do share with all of us . . . ;-)
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Wow Citizen your response time is crazy! I wish my landlord would get back to me that fast!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Oh Kris I don't mind spelling errors at all. You are a member of Conservative sugar aren't you? If you want to know what the spelling error comment is about, I will PM you.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
spelling errors are forgiven. because sometimes you're typing fast and trying to get something out, and you hear familiar footsteps coming to your office and you're like, OH if i could just finishthisreallyfastandhitpost before they get here, then they won't know that I type on this message board off and on the entire day. But they probably know anyway, so who cares. often times they hear me laughing out loud, so I'm sure they know it's not work related. :)
CitizenSugar CitizenSugar 9 years
BREAKING NEWS! You all make a great point about being able to comment on the smaller stories--now you can! Piper23 you're right the Obama story was a big deal! Sometimes we want to get you the information really quickly so we link to it--not because we think it's less important. But it's all fixed! Comment away! Thanks for making such an important point.
carlitacarlo carlitacarlo 9 years
haha, im pretty sure the military is busy monitoring al qaede, not so much preoccupied with monitoring the everyday american!
j2e1n9 j2e1n9 9 years
Also, I dont think this is "hidden in plain sight" I think people just dont do their own research and just sit around and wait for someone else to tell them whats going on. Lazyness!
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