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Is Experience More Important than Inspiration?

Political expert, and Hillary Clinton supporter, Roseanne Barr offered her two cents on The Huffington Post. Did you see it in Link Time on Friday?

There has been some hot and heavy commenting about this issue recently — especially the topics of inspiration and experience — so I thought we should take a look at one more opinion: Roseanne's. While I don't consider Roseanne an authority on the election, I do think she might illustrate widespread sentiments. She wrote: "It's not really the job of a public servant to inspire, but to get the job that the people demand done." Did you read it, and tell me do you agree?

Cadet Cadet 9 years
ktownpolarbear, I think you hit the nail on the head for me. I'm reluctant to buy into Obama's words because I don't think he'll have the backing in the house or senate to be able to accomplish anything that he's saying. Now, I'm not saying that Clinton will have that either; I don't think she will. But I also don't feel like she's trying to pull the wool over my eyes. "Inspire." I'm just trying to be realistic. More importantly, why are Roseanne and even relevant in the political spectrum? Why does anyone care what they have to say? They obviously aren't politicians, economists or even hold any kind of degree. They're celebrities. I think a lot of Americans forget that...
ktownpolarbear ktownpolarbear 9 years
while inspiration is important, it is not enough to be a great leader. you need to show that you can be a great leader, and words are still just words. i'm sick of empty promises, and that's why i didn't vote for obama.
karmasabitch karmasabitch 9 years
Grrrrrrr. :JAWDROP:
karmasabitch karmasabitch 9 years
Holy sh*t, they dug up one of Obama's kindergarten essays!? I totally missed that!? :JAWDDROP: That is just too much!! :ROTFL:
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 9 years
"I think the Dem race is going to get ugly very soon, because I don't believe Clinton can deal with defeat, and it's definitely *not* going her way recently. It will be interesting to see what stories are "anonymously" leaked to the press. For goodness' sake, they've already dug up one of Obama's kindergarten essays and tried to put a negative spin on it!" Lainetm: yes, I've been thinking the same thing. I'm actually really surprised nothing bad has popped up yet, just small stuff. I don't expect a candidate, or anyone else for that matter, to be perfect or have a perfect record. But if the Clinton's can't find anything that will stick; then I have to wonder if there is much out there.
karmasabitch karmasabitch 9 years
Obama has experience and some of the greatest leaders and minds in United States history had LESS.. nough said.
lcterp lcterp 9 years
I agree to a degree but you have to inspire people to help move the nation as well. The President can't work every persons job and make everything better, citizens have to help soon. Citizen, there have been quite a few articles on Hillary's campaign spending and the issues that have been brought up around that, are you going to post a story about that? I'd be very interested to see how people feel about it.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
The flaw in Roseanne's logic is that the President is not the "hand-on" guy, like a pilot or doctor. He's a leader, more akin to being a coach, and the ability to inspire is a real asset for leaders. Noting that she has a problem admitting mistakes is exactly on target. She seems to me like one of those people who thinks speaking more loudly and forcefully will make her more correct. I think the Dem race is going to get ugly very soon, because I don't believe Clinton can deal with defeat, and it's definitely *not* going her way recently. It will be interesting to see what stories are "anonymously" leaked to the press. For goodness' sake, they've already dug up one of Obama's kindergarten essays and tried to put a negative spin on it!
GeriAnne1932 GeriAnne1932 9 years
Inspiring the American people is one thing. Inspiring cabinet officials, foreign policy leaders, UN officials, senators, representatives, etc etc is an entirely different story. I don't think inspiration is going to prevent wars or bring people out of poverty, it is action. Who is going to be taken seriously as a leader of our country in international relations? Who is going to inspire others in the governing bodies of our country and others to make the changes that do need to happen? Can all this political corruptness actually be eliminated? Someone who changes that has to be legit to everyone else who will support it or actually enforce it. Is that someone someone who can deliver a great speech? Someone who has experience? Both? Or is it all just idealistic and ways to get votes? I don't know. But, just because Obama has a stronger speech writing staff doesn't mean he should be President. Anyone who has taken a rhetoric course in school or a course on communication in social change can understand that things can be said in a way that can fool us. I'm not accusing anyone because inspirational words is a step needed in order to make social change. However, it can't just be words. Great leaders of the past had strong actions supporting their strong words. I am excited to have a Democrat in office, regardless of who it is. I just am still of unsure of who can deal with the mess better and who can defeat McCain.
pequeña pequeña 9 years
"Hillary has a lot of experience...with being wrong." I absolutely agree with that Jillness. I think she is a good politician and a very smart woman, but I don't agree with most of her choices. I specially can't get over her initial views on the war in Irak. Obama is inspirational, but not just that. He hasn't been in the spotlight for such a long time, that's for sure, but that doesn't mean that he's not experienced.
bethany21 bethany21 9 years
Clarification: By "message-less," I mean they are in no way contributing anything useful or new, like Roseanne's trite generalization. If everyone was going around spouting things about their candidates like Jillness, I think this whole process would be more enlightened and more civilized. I never meant to infer that anyone's freedom of speech be taken away, I just think they should exercise it a bit more wisely.
indielove indielove 9 years
Message-less voices? They have a right to say what they want, doesn't mean you have to agree. Though I thought Roseanne was the most ridiculous of all. If you don't like it, ignore it. If you can't, then don't be mad at the people who said it cause you're the one that got bent out of shape. Even though some arguments around here getting heated, alot of times when I've stated my opinion, I try my best not to take it *too* personally. Even if I do in the moment, within a few minutes...I'm over it.
bethany21 bethany21 9 years
I agree with PrincessKitty! I am tired of ignorant people making generalizations and touting one candidate while slamming the other. If you're going to be vocal with your opinions, make sure they're educated opinions! (Unlike Roseanne, who is spouting random crap she no doubt picked up from the tv. And Fifty Cent,, Erica Jong, etc. etc. etc.) All those adding their message-less voices to the fray are only helping to divide the Democratic party.
Zahara-Pitt Zahara-Pitt 9 years
another thing, Obama is going to need a majority to make anything happen and right now its does look like the democtras are going to win anygrounds in the senate or house... they haven't deliveried on anything that they promise during the 06 election and nancy pelosi needs to go
Zahara-Pitt Zahara-Pitt 9 years
both matter... the reason George Bush picked Chenney as his runing was that Dick had foreign policy experience and GWB didn't and we see the mess Dickhead got us into... by the way I hope ur next VP is less visible, since according to the Constitution he has very few powers and responsibility.
indielove indielove 9 years
Oh, and to add...if we had a President who was willing to admit his/her mistakes, then he/she would be way more committed to fixing them for the sake of our countrymen. Bush never wanted and never really has, as far as I've seen, admitted his mistakes in Iraq, if he had and really cared about our troops, he would have pulled out and not keep going full-speed ahead. Hillary needs to stop comparing Obama to Bush because she's more like him than she probably recognizes. Maybe she does and can't admit THAT to herself. Btw, tresjolie...fantastic post, as usual.
indielove indielove 9 years
I think many people who support Clinton or at least agree with her 'experience' factor are just simply equate 'her experience' with her being in the public eye for such a lengthy period of time. She is well-known in this country and around the world for obvious reasons i.e being First Lady from 1992-2000. In the last debate she scoffed and ridiculed that man who was interviewed and asked to name one accomplishment made by Barack Obama. I believe if they had asked someone else the same question about her, I believe they would be stumped also. I didn't know anything she accomplished, as limited as it is, until reading up on her recently. She needs to get off her high horse and stop acting like she's superior and show a more personable side. Yes, she's a strong, confident woman but I don't think she's as confident in her campaign, she's putting on a brave face when she knows that her back is really against the wall. I bet she didn't see this coming, how much of a struggle it would be to win the Democratic nom. If she toned down on the 'Wonder Woman' image, she'd be much more appealing. She needs to admit her mistakes, not brush them under the rug and act a bully like she's being to Obama. He comes off looking more honest and real, which he actually is. We don't want more of the same old bossism, at least I don't.
bailaoragaditana bailaoragaditana 9 years
Inspiration and experience are BOTH necessary, and they certainly aren't mutually exclusive. That said, although I'm an Obama supporter, I wouldn't be particularly upset if Clinton were the next president. (McCain is a slightly different matter. And Ralph Nader... GRRRRRR! >O)
katies104 katies104 9 years
A president needs to be able to inspire. If elected, they are going to have a cabinet of advisors with many years of experience complementing their own, so I don't think that lack of experience is really an issue. However if a candidate cannot inspire substantially i think they will burn out and lose favor among the people quickly. Like how listening to Bush speak makes people want to vomit and such.
trésjolie1 trésjolie1 9 years
Princesskitty- Me too. One thing I do think Mrs. Clinton has too little experience doing is admitting mistakes. I think she perceives it as weakness, but we've already had seven years of this kind of thinking in the White House, and I don't know if I can stomach another President with that kind of attitude. She believes in fighting her issues through; but the truth is that any political invention needs a solid majority to become reality, or so it has been in our political past. It is in fact how our system works. Even if the Bush administration relied upon weak evidence saying Saddam Hussein had nuclear war heads, we wouldn't have gone to war without a majority of the Congress.
janneth janneth 9 years
I know they have their differences, but I'll take either Dem, thank you.
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 9 years
And let me just say for the record,that there have been plenty of people who know nothing about politics supporting Obama, as well. Celebrities like to say their political opinions and say why, just like the rest of us. Rosanne writing this article is no different than and all those other celebs making the "Yes We Can" video. For some reason, I've only seen people saying "I'm not going to listen to that idiot" if they're supporting Hillary. I'm just saying. I like both candidates, and I think all this hating will just hurt us in the long run.
Princesskitty22 Princesskitty22 9 years
I agree that inspiration and expirience are both important. I know Obama has expirience. I do count Hillary as expirienced, too. I'm getting a little sick of this argument. Actually, to be honest, I love politics, but I'll be glad when this election is over and we can all move on.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Hillary has a lot of experience...with being wrong. Her NAFTA positions, her view on the war, etc. She hasn't shown that she has good judgement. Obama has co-sponsored and passed the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, and the The 2007 Government Ethics Bill during his short time in the Senate. He HAS made change. Nuclear Non-proliferation is one of the most important issues in our government today, and he has already authored passed legislation on the issue!
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