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Few Immigrants Self-Deport, Bishop Says Jesus Wouldn't Raid

Few Immigrants Self-Deport, Bishop Says Jesus Wouldn't Raid

The federal "self-deportation" pilot program ends today with a scant handful of illegal immigrants volunteering to return home. The three-week program gave illegal immigrants facing court orders 90 days to plan their departure rather than face being arrested, detained, and deported. The program was well-publicized, but in the first week only six signed up.

Immigrant advocates cite few incentives and no consideration for immigrants' ties to family in the US for the reason it was so unpopular. Given the failure of the program, they're worried now that it will be used as a reason to step up the raids since the ICE made an effort to enforce the law in a gentler way.

One religious figure is playing the WWJD game with immigration raids. To see what he has to say,

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Rhode Island's Roman Catholic bishop is calling for an end to immigration raids and has asked for a blanket moratorium on them in his state. Bishop Thomas Tobin says,

We often ask, 'What would Jesus do?' I know for sure what Jesus would not do, would be to sweep into a community, gather up large numbers of people, separate them from one another and deport them to another country. In my own mind, in my own conscience, that's crystal clear: Jesus would not do that.

He goes on to say that raids are unjust, unnecessary, and counterproductive. Are they? Why did the self-deportation program fail? Would Jesus really disapprove of raids? Are they the only solution?

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Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Thanks, ladies. I just heard some more statistics this past week about how much the American people give to charity compared to other nations--it's vastly more per capita. I think that would be a much more effective way to manage aid programs; government is extremely inefficient, and has a high overhead. Private organizations get much more of the money to the people who actually need it.
eleepop eleepop 8 years
I think it's hilarious that people actually think we should be paying taxes to pay for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS' Health care and education or providing them a "better life for them and their children" with the money we work hard to earn. That just cracks me up. "I have no problem with wanting to help the downtrodden. Just use your own money, not mine, and do it in their native countries. Oh, that's right, it's not the Democratic way. They want to tax me to pay for their social engineering experiments. When those don't work, they want to tax me more to throw more money into those failing programs." I love this Lainetm! What a great way of putting that. And, I also love your Avatar!
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 8 years
:rotfl:
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
:crickets:
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
:oy:
BRANDYNICOLE730 BRANDYNICOLE730 8 years
Who cares what an imaginary friend says. Would you really consider something that your 5-year old said his imaginary friend "Bob" said?
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Thanks for that post, Lainetm, it was very informative! And thanks for including links to the actual stories and web sites in your blog!
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Ah, I should have added: I don't believe it is our government's responsibility to prop up other nations' governments and provide welfare for their people. When they actively resist or attempt to circumvent our requirements, such as human rights assurances, I am doubly opposed. Continuing to provide funds for these governments is comparable to being an "enabler", I think they call it; someone who makes excuses and covers for for a loved one's alcoholism or drug abuse.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Sorry to have missed the question, I was away from the computer last night. I don't profess to be an expert, I've heard the stories most of us hear in the news. However, I spent some time researching this morning. There are a couple of general types of aid. One is what I suppose you could generalize as "humanitarian" assistance: technical assistance, education assistance, disaster relief, infrastructure construction assistance, and loan guarantees. This is coordinated by United States Agency for International Development (USAID), which has a web site with loads more information. Then there's law enforcement / military assistance. Much of this seems to be tied to fighting drug trafficking. The most recent installment, the Meridia Initiative, was just passed in June. It's a three-year, $1.4 billion dollar package. Unfortuantely, corruption in the police and military runs rampant. The drug cartels are fighting with one another and with the government enforcement agencies. Also, Mexico's ineffective use of available resources--allegedly due to corruption--is blamed for the infrastructure failures which caused the tragic level of destruction in the floods in Tabasco last November. This is just a quick snapshot. I spent nearly an hour this morning googling for good, reliable details. I've posted my notes in a blog entry, for reference. They're very sketchy, but do include relevant excerpts and links to the original stories. You can find it here: http://teamsugar.com/user/Lainetm/blog/1889261
True-Song True-Song 8 years
>For those who think we should be sending aid to Mexico, we already do. I'm curious, what kind of aid? Do you know what it's intentions are? (I.e. is it to help the homeless, to invest in small business, to provide food?) I'm curious, and if you could share more that would be great.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
There you go! That's the democratic way. ;)
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
I have no problem with wanting to help the downtrodden. Just use your own money, not mine, and do it in their native countries. Oh, that's right, it's not the Democratic way. They want to tax me to pay for their social engineering experiments. When those don't work, they want to tax me more to throw more money into those failing programs.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Oh Lain, don't you realize that it doesn't matter what these illegal aliens do in our country? They're all just trying to make a better life for themselves, and we should excuse any little crimes they commit in the process. (sarcasm)
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
Sorry, I inserted my last paragraph below the signature, above.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 8 years
For those who think we should be sending aid to Mexico, we already do. Much of it doesn't reach the intended cause due to corruption at all levels of the Mexican government. As for citing statistics about crime rates, I think that's irrelevant and should be completely unnecessary. Ask Jamiel Shaw's family; he's the 18-year-old with excellent college prospects who was shot on a Sunday evening near his home by an illegal who had just been released from jail the day before. I work with one of his grandmothers, and this is a good family who works hard and tries to do all the right things. Ask Danielle Bologna, whose husband and two sons--her entire family--were gunned down by an illegal in San Francisco. Both of these murderers had significant previous criminal records. Just one of these cases--just one--is sufficient reason to enforce our immigration policies. --------------------------------------------------------------- I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig, you get dirty; and besides, the pig likes it. --George Bernard Shaw Anyone who insists that the problem is not statistically significant insults the memory of these and all other victims of crime committed by illegals.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
I'm not in love with the minimum wage (shh, don't tell Pelosi, she'll kick me out of the Left-Coast-Left-Wing club!) and it might be worth trying things without it.
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
Right on Martini. It's important that we subsidize the world with the tax money of Americans. That sounds productive. Unfortunately, I don't feel strongly enough to hand my personal funds over unless the entire country donates with me.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
Mich, thanks for explaining, I obviously misunderstood.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Yes, yes yes.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
>My point: We're doing something bad. We should do it in a way that helps us. Did you mean that we should do "something bad" in a way that is advantageous to us? Sorry, I am now just kidding with you, Torg....I know what you meant, and I agree (if I understand you!): We should be spending our limited resources more on development in third-world nations so that people will want to stay there instead of come here. Is that what you are saying?
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Torg, your point is still that we should continue to do something bad. Whether or not it helps us, it's still bad. I'm not twisting your words, I'm restating them. The point just doesn't make sense.
Michelann Michelann 8 years
Martini, The incentive to hire illegals is that they will do the work for less money. If we got rid of the minimum wage, workers would be paid fair market value for their labor. That means there would be no incentive to hire illegals over legal immigrants or American citizens. Furthermore, companies could hire more people, which would do wonders for unemployment.
True-Song True-Song 8 years
Honestly, I'm so tired of having my words twisted. My point: We're doing something bad. We should do it in a way that helps us. Not my point: We're doing something bad. we should do lots lots more. They should call this SemanticsSugar.
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
"I agree that we need to stop intrfering in other countries, but since we're already doing so much of it, why not invest in a country where it wouldn't just help them, it would also help us?" Seems reasonable.
MartiniLush MartiniLush 8 years
"If we want to stop people from hiring them instead of American citizens, we need to get rid of the minimum wage." I am not sure about that, Mich, but I can say that the whole argument about illegals taking jobs "americans" won't do or don't want to do seems to be bull. All those jobs vacated at that meat packing plant in Iowa when immigration officials raided it have now been filled by legal immigrants: http://www.startribune.com/nation/26473469.html
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