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Fox News's Chris Wallace Unleashes Hell on Rove Questioners

Fox News's Chris Wallace may have misunderstood the point of doing PR when he snapped in front of a crowd of reporters at the Television Critics Association in LA moments ago. Our intrepid Buzz was front and center for the giant meltdown and besides sending texts saying "Rove's wearing a green tie! It's too long!" then she says things rapidly got even uglier. Joined on a panel by Howard Wolfson, John Moody, and Karl Rove, here's how the spin hit the fan:

Let's begin at the end, when the explosion happened. The Fox folks were ready to wrap up, and Wallace said basically, "no. I have something else to say."

Wallace then launched into a stern tirade that he thought there was a huge bias in the questions being asked of Karl Rove — especially regarding the controversy about him not testifying in front of Congress. He raged on why that would have any impact on his ability to work for Fox News, which is an independent news organization. Wallace then asked that he'd be curious to know if a conservative Congress had subpoenaed James Carville, if the reporters would be sitting there asking CNN whether it undermined their credibility to have him as a commentator. The general response from the reporters assembled was says Buzz, "uh, YEAH we would." Wallace fired back essentially, "oh, you would? Well, I'd be very curious to see that." The out-of-context blowup was according to Buzz, about a Richter 8 on the tension scale.

To see more questions and answers, including those leading up to the rant and the response to the NY Times photo-doctoring story,


Does having Karl Rove as a commentator, given the whole testifying debacle, undermine the credibility of Fox News?
John Moody: "Mr. Rove is a certified authority on the electoral process, on politics. His track record speaks for itself. His current difference of opinion with Congress is between him and Congress."

A while later, Rove clarified:
"It is not between me and Congress. I have not asserted any personal privilege. It's between the White House and Congress."

Were those NY Times doctored photos justified?

Chris Wallace: "My feeling is that news organizations ought to run regular pictures of people, not doctored."
John Moody: "Fox and Friends is an entertainment show that does some news. . . . It's certainly there for a big bunch of humor."

And what about the other rival, MSNBC?
Chris Wallace: "MSNBC in its coverage of this campaign went so far over the line in terms of being in the tank to Barack Obama that it lost a lot of credibility. There's a reason why Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity don't anchor election night on Fox."

How does Hillary's former adviser Wolfson feel about being on Fox News?
Wolfson: "I want to be in a position to offer analysis from the left, from a progressive perspective. That's how I've lived my whole life. I'm not going to check my politics at the door."

What about Obama's religion?
Does Karl Rove believe Barack Obama is a Muslim: No. Does he believe there's anything un-American about him? No. But he said he did think Obama made a mistake saying what he said about the lapel pin after Sept. 11. "I think it went one step too far to say that wearing a flag lapel pin is not true patriotism."


cubachi cubachi 9 years
I love Fox News. I think it is the best network in reporting fairly. The problem is that liberals such as Jon Stewart and other comedians as well as "reporters" want to parade a right wing banner on the network. Yes many republicans watch the network, but you should ask yourself why. It is because for too long, the other networks have tinged their news to the left. instead of balancing out the argument. I have friends who are democrats that enjoy watching Fox News because of fairness. This demonization of the network is unfair and frankly comes from people who do not watch it. People look at Sean Hannity and paint the network automatically as right-leaning since he is a successful republican commentator on the radio. If it is such a bad network, Jon Stewart, Tim Russert (RIP), Hillary Clinton, and others would not come on. If there is such a problem with Karl Rove, listen to his commentary and to reporter David Carr of the NY Times who gave a rave review of Rove as a political analyst. Chris Matthews and Olbermann meanwhile have sensations crawling up their leg when listening to Obama while ridiculing Hillary. Yeah, that is balanced reporting from that laughable "news" network MSNBC.
stephley stephley 9 years
Truce is good with me. :naughty_elves:
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
I don't think I've ever called them radicals, I beleive I said they were the largest propaganda site associated with gun control. If I thought I had ever called anyone radicals, beleive me, I'd be more willing to listen, but I've never typed that word, so until you can prove me wrong I feel like that was an uncalled for remark. However, I should have pointed out that I copied and pasted that part... my bad! Truce!
stephley stephley 9 years
Cab, you called the Brady anti-gun people radicals as well, before the Supreme Court ruling. It isn't the first time. We should probably trade lives for a day or two(30 days would kill us both), so we can sort these issues out - come back with a common language
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Thats wrong on so many levels. She's a Scientologist, you better watch out. They will eat your brain.
bellaressa bellaressa 9 years
Not at all Rac.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
I have a crush on Greta Van Sustern. Is that wrong?
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Nice try though.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Steph I might be tempted to take you seriously if you could give me an example of that other than that 1 comment I posted in which that snippet I copied and pasted from somwhere else. :oy:
stephley stephley 9 years
Cab, you're so free with calling any group that takes a position different from yours 'radical' or 'extremist' that the words become meaningless. If I applied the same standard, NRA members would be on a terrorism list.
bellaressa bellaressa 9 years
The organization I voluteer with works with the Joyce Foundation here in Chicago ---they are just not known for their support for anti gun groups. Just an FYI: They are an organization that focuses on public schools in Chicago, Cleveland, and Milwaukee; concentrates on teacher quality, early childhood education, and “innovations,” primarily charter schools, small schools, and similar initiatives. They also focuses on workforce development, education, and job training for low-income workers ---which is the area I volunteer most in within my organization.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Oh and a bit more... According to the Chicago Tribune - In 2004, Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed. He also served as director of Joyce Foundation. Since 2000, the Joyce Foundation has provided over $15 Million in funding to radical gun control organizations such as the Violence Policy Center and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence. The Joyce Foundation is tightly linked to the Soros Open Society Institute -- an extremist group that advocates a worldwide ban on civilian firearm ownership. And then there's that pesky questionnaire that was discovered a while back where the question "Do you support state legislation to ... ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns?" Obama's Response: "Yes." Remember that? He denied seeing it but people said it was his handwriting. But hopey, I'm sure you're right. Clearly I'm uninformed.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Actually in 2004 Obama voted 4 times to allow criminals to sue home owners for injuries they sustain from firearms that the homeowner used to defend themselves against the criminal (ie. breaking and enterting, sexual assualt, etc). Also, while in Senate he supported a limit on handgun purchases to one a month. And in 2001, Obama voted against S.B. 604 (IL 2001), which would have allowed individuals who have valid orders of protection against other individuals to carry concealed weapons for their protection. In 2002 he also voted against a measure that would allow people from outside of Illinois to buy a shotgun and ammunition for the purpose of competing at sactioned competitive shooting events at the event site only. So basically, if you are an olympic athlete whose event is rifle shooting and you're at a competition in Illinois with an identification card saying who you are and essentially acting as a permit, if you want to buy ammo at that event, you cannot do it according to Obama. He also supported the DC gun ban... Soooooo... while now he SAYS he supports gun rights, everything he DOES speaks to the opposite.
chancleta chancleta 9 years
"Fox news is an embarrassment to journalism"? Give me a break *eye roll*
chancleta chancleta 9 years
cabaker hit the nail on the head with comment #5 "I really dont understand how people come down on Fox as if MSNBC and others are JUST AS biased in their reporting. If Fox is an embarassment, than MSNBC, the New York Times, and the LA Times are just as much of one." Once again our media reminds us it's cool when it's liberals but oh so wrong when it's conservatives. The bias kills me.
hopey1 hopey1 9 years
It is obvious that Fox news is not fair and balanced, no matter what any of its viewers think. It's fine that they are a conservative news organization and they should own up to it. The problem that I have with Fox is that they don't let the facts get in the way of their coverage. They are consistently giving false information that benefits the Republicans and attempts to damage the Democrats. Referring to the Obama fist bump as a terrorist fist jab. Referring to Barack Obama's wife as his baby momma. How many times did they call Michelle bitter? Have they done any negative stories about Cindy McCain? Since they were the lead cheerleaders when it was Bill Clinton being unfaithful, did they cover the fact that McCain's relationship with Cindy began when he was married to someone else and that he was notoriously unfaithful even before Cindy? Did they cover Cindy's salacious and criminal past, ie. stealing drugs from a charity? No. Unfortunately, their viewers are getting inaccurate news and running with it. Now go to the other networks, both MSNBC and CNN have run infinite negative stories about Obama and seem to give McCain a free pass on his many mistakes. So, to argue that Fox is as biased as everyone else is not exactly true, but their viewers already have a point of view and they won't let anything like the truth stand in their way. They are basically preaching to the choir and their viewers don't expect to hear anything but what they already believe. And btw, Obama has always written that the 2nd Amendment is an individual's right, he also believes, that the government has the right to control access to guns. No inconsistency no matter how much the right wants to make it so. I suggest that people go back and read what he's written rather than relying on Fox News and conservative organizations to tell you what he stands for. If you don't know where he stands on issues there is plenty of documentary proof to find out.
liliblu liliblu 9 years
lilkimbo feel free to use pro-life.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Opps, I meant pro-life.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Lili, I didn't realize that you disliked the term pro-choice, which I know I used. I will try to refrain from using that on Citizen in the future.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
I'm sure the post will pop up soon. As for the anti-choice thing, I see what you mean about the sanctity of life but conversly, couldn't one say then that someone who believes in abortion therefore doesn't beleive in the sanctity of life and therefore it should never be sacred? Not instigating, just food for thought. :)
liliblu liliblu 9 years
I responded to your post cabaker but it was flagged. Don't know why. Hopefully it will appear soon. I was not trying to offend any one by using anti-choice. But to me that's the proper term. I know people who call themselves pro-lifers but support the death penalty. That just rubs me wrong. If life is sacred before birth shouldn't life always be sacred? But I'll refrain from using the term.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Thanks, Steph! I don't think you need reports to back your claims, either! Seriously, though, I really did read a few things back then that stated that some of Obama's supporters thought that he was pro-life. If only I could find it now...
stephley stephley 9 years
Lilkimbo if you or Jillness say there's a report to back your claims, I believe there's a report to back your claim. Anyone else, including me, would have to produce the report, but you two are wicked in your report accuracy!
liliblu liliblu 9 years
Progress in Iraq? Indoctrination? Foibles? Cabaker what are you talking about? What do you consider anti- American? I don't want to read or hear about unimportant issues (flag pins). I want real examinations of the candidates policies. If Obama can be questioned about FISA, then McCain can be questioned about his changing positions on the repeal of Roe v. Wade. When a McCain surragate(Fiorina)discusses insurance companies paying for Viagra but not for Birth Control pills; I want the media to discuss the fact that McCain was one of the people who voted against requiring insurance companies to do so. If you want to call one candidate out for (flip flopping), do it for both. The media does not do this.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Can we please not use the term anti-choice? As has been discussed many times on Citizen Sugar, pro-abortion and anti-abortion are the proper, AP-approved terms. Using divisive terms only makes people seem childish and detracts from points people are trying to make. Grrr...Now I can't find those polls. I'm not saying it's a majority of people, but a significant number, kind of like the 25% with McCain. I remember reading the poll results a few weeks after the Obama/abortion president article surfaced.
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