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Front Page: Carter: Angry Obama Opposition Based on Race

  • Jimmy Carter says Rep. Joe Wilson's "you lie" outburst along with other angry opposition toward President Obama is based on racism. — MSNBC
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hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
"Actually, the stipulation that would stop illegal aliens from getting health insurance was put in AFTER the fact." After the first draft? Probably I'll give you that one because I have no evidence to the contrary. However it was clearly in there before the Presidents speech and the Congressman should have known that. On a peripheral point I see a lot of people blurring a particular issue. Illegal aliens have been, are and will be receiving health (care) at ER's across America. We're not going to turn away some one who's acutely injured or or illegal. The Presidents point is they will not receive health (insurance).
urban-chic-101 urban-chic-101 8 years
Actually, the stipulation that would stop illegal aliens from getting health insurance was put in AFTER the fact.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
I agree HoneyBrown and that's good enough proof for the individual but when you're trying to convince hundreds of millions of people you need illustration (proof) and if the Congressman's history is so explicit as you suggest that illustration should not have been a problem but instead it turned out to be an oversight which only made the former President look silly rather than triumphant.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
Its easier to label someone as a racist, rather than try to understand an opposing arguement. Its laziness.
HoneyBrown1976 HoneyBrown1976 8 years
hypnoticmix, in my experience, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck....yeah, it's a duck.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
HoneyBrown Congressman Wilson could very well have a track record of obvious racist leaning but I think my point is you don't just lay that on the table with out the stuff to back it up. President Carter played his hand and left his chips at home. You just don't do that.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
F.Y.I. Urban Chic and to anyone who's iterested. As another Sugar member (Jillness) pointed out.... "In addtion to apologizing, I think this man needs to be educated on the legislation. Section 242 says that people have to be lawfully present in the United States, and section 246 is titled "No Payment for Undocumented Aliens" (AHCA)."
Jules1976 Jules1976 8 years
Racism is very real and does exist. But too often in today's society, it's used as a victimhood and an excuse for darn near anything. It's an out, an easy way to dismiss something. That was my point. Now back to the flaming! You ladies take care!
Jules1976 Jules1976 8 years
Yes I am serious. If we are all equal, then we should all act like it and stop being victims. I was expecting some interesting responses, but here's the thing: we don't know each other. We don't know anything about each other's lives. We make assumptions. Just food for thought.
urban-chic-101 urban-chic-101 8 years
From what I have read and heard the congressman had a very passionate outburst due to the fact that he was part of a committee that would insure the bill would not allow illegal immigrants to be put on the health care bill. When the President said that illegals would not be put on the bill he was not being accurate. The truth is the bill does not specify whether or not illegals would be covered. The congressman knew this and blurted out you lie.
HoneyBrown1976 HoneyBrown1976 8 years
Jules, maybe in your comfy little world you can say Racism isn't an issue. But, we can't and discussing it doesn't make it continue. Seriously, that's old meme and I can believe some people adhere to that belief.
Jules1976 Jules1976 8 years
I had to toss my two cents in (I'm not a Democrat or Republican). Racism does still exist. But I don't know Wilson personally and unless any of you do, you can't say for sure that he is a racist. What he did was extremely rude, and he is being punished for it. But we ARE quickly headed to the scenario where any disagreement with the President is automatically condemned and dismissed as racism. This is in the news/media every day, and it's ignorant and very dangerous for our country on several levels. Racism will continue to exist as long as it's used as a scapegoat reason for actions. Once we stop making it an issue, it won't be one.
HoneyBrown1976 HoneyBrown1976 8 years
hypnoticmix, I implore to learn more about Joe Wilson. He advocated the continuity of having the Confederate flag on the S.C. capital building. Also, he was a strong supporter of Strom Thurmond. So, all bets lead to the motivation of Wilson's outburst. So, no, it wasn't an intellectual fart.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
IMO President Carter has a point but I disagree with the means by which he got there. Simply reading some of the signs that were created and authored by protesters at the rally last Saturday there is no doubt that there is truth to what the former President is saying. Many of those signs were simply outrageous slanders towards culture, race and religion. Now most of the protesters obviously presented their gripe reasonably but does that mean we should turn a blind eye to the extremist minority? I don't understand why he would pointedly suggest Congressman Wilson is a racist which he can not possibly prove only to have it land as slander and an act of desperation. If he had pointed to an example of fact (the protesters I referenced above) and made his assertion he would have proof to back up his statement but tossing the Congressmen in there was an intellectual fart on his part IMO.
HoneyBrown1976 HoneyBrown1976 8 years
Of course, you can disagree with anyone, no matter the race. However, it's foolish to not understand that some motivations against Obama are centered in racism. Also, it's foolish to tell others what such motivations aren't when you are least likely to live a life stressed by them.
Newsweek says it. It must be true. And, someone who posts here regularly and cusses to get her point across, says it, too. Might as well accept it, as a white person.
Well, according to some people, being born white makes you racist. So, this discussion is worthless. I just want to know why Tres hasn't mentioned one thing about ACORN in a long, long time. Too hot a topic?
tvjunkie45 tvjunkie45 8 years
Yes because the democrats were so respectful of Bush. And yes this was disrespectful. Sure, racism exists, in all forms from all races towards all races, there is no denying that. Was this racism, maybe, maybe not. But if someone disagrees with Obama's policies it could be that they think his policies are awful, not because of his race. Although, it seems that the democrats believe that only someone could disagree with this grand, great President if they are racist.
tiff58 tiff58 8 years
Racism absolutely exists. But, when we label everything as racism, we minimize the REAL instances of racism.
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