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  • India Launches Moon Orbiter:
    India has launched its first unmanned spacecraft on a mission to the moon, in an effort to assert its power in space. The mission is set to last two years and will prepare a three-dimensional atlas of the moon as well as survey the lunar surface for usable natural resources like uranium, a coveted fuel for nuclear power plants.
  • Palin Gives Speech Advocating Women:
    At a rally in Nevada yesterday, Sarah Palin gave a speech advocating for women's rights the world over. She said, "there are still places where women are subjugated and persecuted as they were in Afghanistan, places we’re they’re bullied and brutalized and murdered in honor killings. . . if I am elected, these women, too, will have an advocate and a defender in the 47th vice president of the United States. She also gave her first interview to CNN.
  • EU Protests US Death Sentence:
    The European parliament is protesting the execution of a prisoner in the US after seven of the nine key witnesses recanted their testimony against him. The head of the EU parliament says that all executions are a violation of human rights and that the prisoner symbolizes all death row inmates. He says he "will fight against the death penalty under any circumstances everywhere in the world."


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Sticker1 Sticker1 8 years
So nobody believes in polls anymore? Is that because nobody understands how they work?
em1282 em1282 8 years
:woohoo: Steph! Also, implying that we simply don't "like" Palin is the same as saying people like Obama just because MTV says it's cool...people have their reasons, and they're not always superficial.
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
Ahh but Harmony, you are forgetting, her bestest friend is a lesbian. :)
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
And YES great post steph. :)
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
So Sarah is all for women's rights...except gay women. Right? Is that how it works?
kastarte2 kastarte2 8 years
Steph: :notworthy:
stephley stephley 8 years
liliblu liliblu 8 years
Great post Steph. :highfive:
stephley stephley 8 years
Even accidentally billing rape victims for the kits is repugnant and since it's claimed that Palin went over the budget line by line, I don't think it was totally accidental. I know about Obama's skeletons - the birth certificate, the Muslim schools, that he's a Muslim - all nonsense. Jeremiah Wright is not Obama, and if you've looked at Obama's voting record, or his work in Chicago and the Senate you know that Wright's more outrageous beliefs are not reflected in that work. The William Ayers association is minimal and again, not reflected in Obama's work. That the Annenberg Foundation gave money to an Ayer's education project doesn't trouble me - there were Republicans on the grant committee so I'm guessing they reviewed the project. It certainly wasn't enough to create a small army of terrorists in Chicago schools. I've read several articles about Obama's economic, education and health plans - I'm satisfied that he'll take as measured, bi-partisan and fair actions as any politician running for President this year. You keep insisting that the rest of us are being unfair to Palin because we simply don't like her. I don't like her because to me she is arrogant and a ruthless hypocrite. I'm not going to apologize for that any more than you'd apologize for your dislike of Obama.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Steph, I will dig out my OLD blog about this and the links in it to show you that it had no tie to Palin whatsoever. I have to leave for a while so it won't be till later. I really wish you were this investigative and non forgiving for all politicians, not just the ones you don't like. Obama has plenty of skeletons that just don't seem to matter one bit to you.
stephley stephley 8 years
The rape kit thing hasn't been 'debunked' - Palin didn't walk up and tell people they'd be charged, but it was during her administration that victims' insurance companies were billed. A simple breakdown: "Sarah Palin fired Ira Stambaugh as Wasilla's police chief and hired Charlie Fallon. No one disputes this, and the judge actually sided with Palin that she was well within her rights as mayor to fire and hire police chiefs. Neither Palin's predecessor, John Stein, nor Fallon's predecessor, Irl Stambaugh, charged victims or their insurance companies for rape kits. It was only after Palin took office and installed Charlie Fallon as police chief that the $15,000 line item in the budget to pay for forensic rape examinations disappeared. Palin's spokespeople insist she had no knowledge, but budget documents reflect that she signed off on the recission. In 2000, the Alaska legislature passed a bill requiring that neither a victim nor their insurance company be charged for performing forensic rape examinations, as Wasilla was doing. At the time, when called for comment, Fallon said, "In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer." He also added, "The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. I'd like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things." So, let's call a spade a spade. The Palin Administration in Wasilla definitely removed an item from the budget that the previous administration used to pay for forensic rape examinations, which are done at hospitals with medical personnel. Fallon defended Wasilla's policy. Period."
kranky kranky 8 years
'Night everyone!
kranky kranky 8 years
"Again, the rape kit thing has been debunked." This is what really bugs me... I have stated that I am not a huge fan of Palin, so I am not going to try to convince anyone that she's the bees knees. But I can't believe that so many people justify not liking her because of reasons that don't exist. I feel the same way about people who won't vote for Obama because he's a Muslim and the woman in my building who won't vote for McCain becuase he has 'T-rex arms' (her quote).
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Again, the rape kit thing has been debunked.
margokhal margokhal 8 years
What I can't understand is how Palin can advocate for women's rights abroad when there's still serious problems with women's rights in America. What about women's rights in the domestic area? All I've heard is about her wanting women to pay for their own rape kits. [I don't know anything else, she may have some other positions I might agree with]. Also, she won't have any real *power* to do anything about it other than advocate for them... And living in Texas, the death penalty is alive and well; our governor doesn't give a crap who says otherwise. He just got in a bit of a pickle when the state executed a Mexican national who claimed he didn't get a chance to talk to the consulate when he was first arrested for murder, a violation of international law. Even Pres. Bush asked for a stay of execution, particularly because if it went through, there's no chance of extradition or even of being tried under American law if Americans are arrested abroad. No go, the state still went forward with it. More people are starting to see how the death penalty has been misused to execute a significant number of innocent people, but it's going to be a cold day in hell before it's banned as a form of punishment in the US, especially in Texas.
kranky kranky 8 years
Steph - is there an instance where McCain has gone on record that he is against abortion in the mother's-health case? If so, please share... I wasn't aware of it, and would certainly like to know if there is a gap in my understanding.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
And I am not heartless and implying that I don't think people need help is not only rude and ignorant to the facts, but inflammatory at best. I just believe we should help each other, which I have made clear time and time again on this site.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Steph, you and I have never discussed the death penalty. I'm sure you'll be surprised to know I feel the same way you feel about it probably. And we have never discussed the war because you just bring it up in completely unrelated threads, for example, abortion threads.
stephley stephley 8 years
We differ on moral and human rights issues as we've discovered in the past - war, death penalty, health care, etc. McCain's record depends on which McCain the Senator is channeling at the time.
kranky kranky 8 years
Yup, agreed.
Great-Sommelier Great-Sommelier 8 years
Krank, I would go further and say it isn't a moral issue, it is a human rights issue.
kranky kranky 8 years
Stephley - no, I am not surprised. I read these boards for a long time before I started posting, and I know you are one who usually backs up your claims. Your claim that McCain (and Palin) do not support abortion in cases where the mother's life is at risk is wrong. McCain's record proves this statement. I recognize the importance of the pro-choice issue for you. I am not pro-choice, and am a woman, so I am can say that I believe Palin has a good record of being a women's advocate. Abortion is a moral issue for met, not a women's issue. And your argument about the impact of caring for a child has nothing to do with abortion when adoption is considered as an alternative.
stephley stephley 8 years
Kranky, this is going to come as a surprise to you, but I know about McCain's record. I once voted for him in a primary during one of his past incarnations. Being pro-choice isn't the only measure for a women's advocate, but it is an extremely important measure. A woman's employment, earning and social needs are seriously impacted by whether or not she has children to care for, so whether she is able to determine her own reproductive destiny is of vital importance.
kranky kranky 8 years
Stephley, this may hurt... but McCain is NOT Obama. (Actually, you probably agree with that. ;) ) He has a record, look it up. I completely agree with your assessment of what being a woman's advocate means. I disagree with the idea that a woman's advocate needs to be pro-choice. I understand that this is an important issue for you, but is it the ONLY issue? If so, then we must agree to disagree.
stephley stephley 8 years
Third debate: he sneered very publicly about the mother's health issue. They may claim they support abortion in the event the mother's life is in danger, the question is how would they evaluate the danger? Does she have to be on death's door? A woman's advocate does need to respect the woman's right to determine what is best for herself and her child - we don't need an administration taking more of our right to choose for ourselves and redistributing it based on their priorities.
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