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  • President Obama will spend the weekend in Strasbourg, France for the NATO summit. He plans to push for help in Afghanistan. — Times of London
  • The US unemployment rate stands at 8.5 percent, a 25-year high. — Bloomberg
  • The Iowa Supreme Court ruled that the states ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. It will be the third state where gay marriage is legal. — Wall Street Journal
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StolzeMama StolzeMama 8 years
Shelly O's jacket looks like a sack and makes her look like she is 300 pounds... And I don't see anyone thinking commenting on her clothes as sexist when they are complementing them. If a stylist put that on her, they should be fired.
jackiered jackiered 8 years
pink, there is what is termed civil unions. chat, using your logic, "if three people (or 10) love each other, they should be allowed to marry"
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
You guys, Pamela has a totally valid point. I'm super cereal! My mom just told me that the speed limit in the town she lives in, on residential streets, went up from 20 to 25. :O I'm going to petition to have this repealed. I mean, using Pamela's logic, that means that soon the people who wanted it changed to 25 will be arguing for it to 70, or for the entire town to be an Autobahn-style free for all! ;)
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 8 years
All i know and believe is that two adults no matter male and female, male and male, or female and female should be allowed to marry.
jackiered jackiered 8 years
movement (typo)
jackiered jackiered 8 years
actually pink, marriage is defined legally: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/1/7.html There is a very strong moment in this country to change that definition to allow couples of the same sex to marry and receive legal recognition. If the legal definition is changed, the next group of people will want be petitioning for another change to allow for their trysts to be recognized by law. These individuals could include 3-way marriages, incestuous marriages, group marriage, uh, you name it. According to TrueSong, the government is violating the civil rights of these groups who want to marry and are being denied by LAW. She hates my argument because she has no answer for it.
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 8 years
pedophile sorry.
pinkprincess1101 pinkprincess1101 8 years
Marriage is between two consenting adult, plain and simple. Correct me if I'm wrong Pam what I gather by your comments is that if we allow this to be changed we should just allow anything to go. TrueSong I don't think pam is saying that humans and pets should marry or that humans are pepohiles (pam correct me if I'm wrong). I don't get why people are reading so much into a comment that I got sarcasm out of. Marriage is a serious matter and should be chosen and allowed by two people who are in love.
T-S T-S 8 years
No joke, if you think gay marriage will lead to pet or kid marriage, then I don't see how you can condone heterosexual marriage. And if you're teaching your kid to oppose civil rights, then I'd say you're not setting your child up for success.
jackiered jackiered 8 years
Laws that change the meaning of marriage are not a joke TrueSong. Most people take this very seriously. btw, this kind of ridicule is what our children face every single day in our schools when they are taught by the majority of liberal thinking educators when they dare to disagree.
T-S T-S 8 years
Pretty much, we shouldn't change ANY law, because it could lead to your 5 year old marrying the dog.
T-S T-S 8 years
Totally. I wish they hadn't raised the drinking age to 21. Because one it's 21, why not change it to 50? Or change it to 5?
jackiered jackiered 8 years
If the laws are changed, sex with a minor could change. Yes? If you want to change the definition of marriage, why not change it to whatever goes goes? no? yes? maybe? duh? Morals are passe? yes ? no?
Michelann Michelann 8 years
I think I need it repeated again.
T-S T-S 8 years
Mich, do you need Pam to repeat it again? If you change the definition, then you're changing the definition and then how long before you're asserting arguments for other combos of marriages?
Michelann Michelann 8 years
If you're going to say x leads to y, you should probably illustrate the way in which that process will happen. Frankly, I can't imagine the course of events that would lead from gay marriage to pet marriage or legalized pedophilia.
T-S T-S 8 years
Marriage's legal definition used to be a union between one white man and one white woman. We'd better go back to that. Interracial marriage is clearly going to lead to gay marriage, and then you know what happens next...
jackiered jackiered 8 years
Marriage has a legal definition. Changing that definition is what this is about. Changing that definition is what leads to gay marriage and all the other combos of marriages True Song. Seriously cant you get it or do you want me to repeat? ok- repeat... Marriage has a legal definition. Changing that definition is what this is about. Changing that definition is what leads to gay marriage and all the other combos of marriages True Song.
T-S T-S 8 years
Seriously, if you think gay marriage will lead to child marriage or pet marriage, then we better do away with heterosexual marriage. It's clearly leading to gay marriage.
amybdk amybdk 8 years
:rotfl:
T-S T-S 8 years
"Seriously folks, where does this end? Don't take this wrong but how soon will we be fighting against pedophilia based on the same arguments you assert." Yeah, I wonder how that came up...hmmm...
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Don't take this wrong but how soon will we be fighting against pedophilia Um, you compared them, Pamela! I can't speak for TS's line of thought, but you brought up the idea before anyone else. :) And sorry, but incest and child molestation are completely different from two consenting adults! What if instead of heteronormative, the world was homonormative? I doubt people would be arguing that by allowing a man and a woman to marry would be akin to allowing a woman and a dog to marry. The argument is just too silly for words! :oy:
jackiered jackiered 8 years
Truesong no one is comparing being gay to pedophilia. How do you come up with such ideas? The majority of Americans do not wish to have the legal definition of marriage changed. There's other ways legally available for same sex couples. My point is once you change the definition of marriage, when will you be asking for a Three-some marriage, or marriage between several people-think of all the possible combinations, incestuous marriage? Are you next going to ask for the age of consent for sex to be dropped to a lower age? (now called pedophilia) Why is that so difficult to imagine? I never imagined what is taking place now so it isn't wrong to think what might be around the corner with the current trend or sentiment.
T-S T-S 8 years
Oh, yay, Arr Dev jokes! And yeah, I am so sick of people comparing being gay to being a pedophile. It's all about consenting adults. Since kids (and pets) can't consent to sex or marriage, it's a non-issue. Did heterosexual marriage lead to dog marriage or kid marriage? I mean, can someone tell me why we even let straight people get married?
Modus-Vivendi Modus-Vivendi 8 years
I'm puzzled by how someone might say Iowa is taking more of a lead on this than California is. Both states had courts that legalized gay marriage. I would be surprised if Iowa doesn't follow California in putting a measure on the ballot. If Iowa votes to make gay marriage legal, then you can say they are different than California.
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