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GOP Senator Questions Obama's Citizenship

GOP Senator Questions Obama's Citizenship

Proven-American (I assume) senator Richard Shelby has an issue with his President. Saturday the Republican from Alabama said:

Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate. You have to be born in America to be president.

Shelby was responding to a question from a constituent about whether there was any truth to the rumor that Obama wasn't a US citizen.

He has since said that it was a "throwaway line" and that he doesn't have any doubt that Obama is eligible to be president. Still, why would he choose to perpetrate this line of "attack" on the president. No other president has had his citizenship questioned, even in a "throwaway line."

Is this "he's not one of us" narrative dangerous, or do you think Shelby's comments were harmless?


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ylovely ylovely 8 years
I dont think its hate, its just a question, a rumor that some people feel needs looking into. amanda, republicans arent upset that they lost to a black man, nor are they all being childish. Don't be naive. Of course they're upset they lost and to a man who is half black and they are childish.
Grandpa Grandpa 8 years
Boy, did Limbaugh show them Democrats. It sure made it easy to defeat Obama in the GE. :rotfl:
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
"There are things I like about a lot of parties, I don't necessarily line up with one. So it is hard for me to choose one. " Then you shouldn't vote in the primaries. Wait for the GE and decide which person you feel more connected with. I know you can do that in NH, but that openness is dangerous, and can lead to tampering, at least in those states. Does anyone remember Limbaugh ranting that republicans should register and vote for Hilary Clinton, to keep the dems divided?
tiabia tiabia 8 years
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Roarman, you still aren't making sense. You say you can't possibly believe people would do that, then you say that you can't have very much faith in anyone. It's one or the other! ;) And no, you didn't explain it. You didn't even say which one you voted in!
Roarman Roarman 8 years
I think I explained why I voted in this past primary and pointed out that not having to be a part of a specific party to vote in a primary was not a radical idea of mine, so I am not sure what questions you are speaking of. And I do not deny that there would be a small majority who would try to win the election by dirty tactics, but I do not believe that the majority would do that. I know what hyperbole is, I said "sarcasm and such" meaning things such as hyperbole and sarcasm do not come across well in this medium and I do not pretend to know you enough to know what you are or aren't capable of. I wouldn't want to have too much faith in my fellow citizens, including you.
em1282 em1282 8 years
It's easy to get lost!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
Oh me too Amy! How'd that happen? LOL ;)
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Yeah, it wasn't sarcasm. At all. Hyperbole. Different things. :oy: You still aren't answering any of my other questions.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
"Roarman, I wouldn't actually do that. Sorry for using hyperbole, didn't realize it was beyond your grasp." Somebodies a little defensive. Sarcasm and such don't come across on the computer well.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Roarman, it shouldn't work that way in ANY state.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
There are things I like about a lot of parties, I don't necessarily line up with one. So it is hard for me to choose one. And I don't feel I have to "get over" the fact that we have party politics in the US. "To say they are independent but also get to decide who runs in a particular party. And it doesn't work that way" It does work that way in many states, just not in mine.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Roarman, I wouldn't actually do that. Sorry for using hyperbole, didn't realize it was beyond your grasp. But how about in the 2012 election? It'll be Obama versus some Republican. Everyone knows it'll be Obama, so what's to keep people who want him to stay in office from voting in the Republican primaries to nominate Palin, knowing she won't win? Seriously, you have way too much faith in people if you think there aren't people out there who would do that. Exactly, Hain. I don't like not voting in primaries, but since I disagree with so many issues each party holds dear, I won't join either.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 8 years
Well I know many people who say they are independent or unaffiliated. I think they just don't want to be lumped into a group, for who knows what reason. Those people, if given policy question would 99% of the time line up with a single party. I think these people like to have the best of both worlds. To say they are independent but also get to decide who runs in a particular party. And it doesn't work that way. We have party politics in the US, get over it. If you don't like a party, find one there are thousands. Help to grow it's base and maybe someday they can be a viable contender for the us presidency. Until then, register yourself as an independent and don't complain.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
This is not some radical idea I have created.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
Some states, New Hampshire for example, already allow undeclared voters to vote in either parties primary. I would hope that the majority of those eligible to vote would not try to sabotage the process and would allow it to play out fairly. It's disturbing that you would try to do that Chaton.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Exactly, Dave. I would very much like an explanation from roarman about why anyone should be able to vote in any old primary they feel like showing up to.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 8 years
If you aren't a member of a party, why in the world do you care who they put up as their nominee. You can vote for who ever you would like in the general election. If you like Hillary Clinton, you could have wrote her name in. The fact that some states have open primaries is mind boggling. If you don't want to be labeled as being a part of a party, you shouldn't get the privilege of determining who that party's nominee is. Some people have claimed that open primaries could be the reason we have unqualified people running for president of the US. Some have said that is the very reason why Obama and McCain were their party's noms.
StolzeMama StolzeMama 8 years
Mydiadem- you tell me not to judge you or assume I know you from a few comments on the internet yet "I really don't think you know what socialism is Hain, and just use it as a synonym for liberal. " in just 1 sentence you did to me what you don't want done to you.
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
I agree Chaton. The primaries aren't for anyone but members of that party. It's where that party gets to decide who their nominee will be in the GE. It doesn't make any sense to allow anyone who doesn't affiliate with that party to have a voice in that party's decision.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
Why should everyone be able to vote in any old primary? Not allowing anyone to vote in any old primary makes sense for very obvious reasons. Let's just look at this year. Both parties had some very fringe people running. If I was a Republican and able to vote in a Democratic primary, I'd have had all my Republican friends vote for that nutball Kucinich. 0% chance he'd win in a GE. But if I could have, I'd have nominated him, because then we'd have someone who isn't a socialist in the White House right now. So why would you let anyone vote in any primary they want to? It just doesn't make sense.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
No, but to vote in the primaries in my state you do have to be a part of a party, and it was important for me to vote in the primary.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
I joined a party so that I could cast my vote. You don't have to be a part of a party to vote in the general election. ... :? Is it like that in some states, because that seems like something the ACLU would have done away with long ago.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
I lived in my State for five years, before affiliating with a party. We can buy beer in grocery stores and some convenience stores, but no wine or grain alcohols. But we can't buy on Sundays or on holidays and not past 9 pm.
mydiadem mydiadem 8 years
My state is like that to roarman, so depending on what is the major election in that year's primary I switch and then go to independent. Sometimes I go to libertarian, I like their newsletters. But all in all the system is pretty crap, but what do you expect from a state where I can't buy beer or wine in grocery stores.
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