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Will a Good Fundraiser Make a Good President?

Barack Obama's war chest is three times as full as Hilary Clinton's. Barack has $32 million to help him finish this nomination marathon, compared to Hillary's $11 million.

In an attempt to close this gap, Hillary's campaign has become a little less flashy. The Wall Street Journal reported that Hillary cut back on expenses after donors complained the campaign was spending too much on hotels and catering.

Of course being able to convince people to give you their money is a good indication of popularity and momentum. But, what if Hillary wins big after being so disadvantaged at the bank? Does that make her win worth more?

Perhaps a candidate's ability to raise money, and budget it effectively, is a reflection of management skills. Such skills could be crucial in the general election and as the leader of the country. What role do fund-raising capabilities play in our assessment of the candidates?

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lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I do love when people put words in my mouth, though.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I didn't say that having feasible plans and inspiring people are mutually exclusive. I was simply responding to the idea that the ability to inspire people "should factor in greatly." To me, that should be a small factor that supports having good plans.
Schaianne Schaianne 9 years
No - it just means you're a good salesman.
indielove indielove 9 years
"One disturbing thing that's coming to the fore in this election is a certain strain of cynicism that asks people to make a false choice between "inspiration" and "reality." It's as if some people would have voters believe that those two things really are mutually exclusive: that there is no place for change and no place for faith, that to believe in the possibility of change and to have faith in that automatically makes one a head-in-the-clouds dreamer without substance. That's not true at all, and is an absolutely false and deceptive dichotomy." Where's that ovation smiley? :)
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
*I meant "faith in the future," just wanted to clarify that. :)
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
"Do they have to be mutually exclusive?" My thoughts exactly, Jillness. One disturbing thing that's coming to the fore in this election is a certain strain of cynicism that asks people to make a false choice between "inspiration" and "reality." It's as if some people would have voters believe that those two things really are mutually exclusive: that there is no place for change and no place for faith, that to believe in the possibility of change and to have faith in that automatically makes one a head-in-the-clouds dreamer without substance. That's not true at all, and is an absolutely false and deceptive dichotomy. Oh, and indie--you read my mind :ROTFL:
Jillness Jillness 9 years
"To me, having feasible plans is much more important than "inspiring people." Do they have to be mutually exclusive? How do you know that people aren't drawn to Obama's plans? Perhaps it his plans that people find inspiring? "What I like is a candidate with both charisma and substance" "O-BA-MA" Amen!
indielove indielove 9 years
"What I like is a candidate with both charisma and substance" Can you say O-BA-MA? :D
indielove indielove 9 years
"To me, Bush is charismatic like a clown. I can't look away from him, out of equal parts amusement and fear. But that's just me, and I won't deny that he's definitely not a bore, anyway." :rotfl:!!!! Yeah, he's not a bore...he's a circus act, for sure.
indielove indielove 9 years
I like Bill...it's his wife I can't stand.
lula29 lula29 9 years
Bush is definitely charismatic and charming, I can't begrudge the man that. Thing about the Obama campaign is that it's managed it's finances well along with raising lots of cash. That to me is good sign. I personally think the way in which each candidate runs their campaign indicates how they'll run the presidency. It's the reason we have a presidencial race in the first place. It's the true proving ground that's testing the claims of experience purported by each candidate.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
Absolutely, lilkimbo. Bush's victory over Kerry, to me, was absolutely a victory of personal charisma over substance. It happens, especially in our visual-media-saturated news world. When what most people get are sound bites and short clips of the candidates, personal charisma will play a large role, sad as that is. It's been that way ever since Nixon sweated up a storm on the first televised Presidential-election debate. What I like is a candidate with both charisma and substance ;)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I agree about him seeming very approachable, cabaker. I think Clinton has a similar appeal. (Bill, that is)
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
That's kind of the point I was trying to make, Jude (the first part of your post, at least): That Bush was more charismatic than Kerry (the part that you seem to agree with), and that it helped him with both votes and fund raising. (I'm not sure if you would agree with this or not.)
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
"For some people, it takes a lot for them to open up their wallets when they have to work so hard for their money. These small donations have been the backbone of his campaign...this is what's kept it going." Very true, indie. I'm nearly constantly broke, and yet even I found a way to give $50 to his campaign, and will again.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Lilkimbo I totally agree. When you actually see Bush in person making a speech, he seems like he could be your buddy from next door... he comes off as really likable and approachable. I've ever seen John Kerry in person, but I did see Howard Dean and def. did not get the same feeling from him.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
I was fond of John Kerry and voted for him, but honesty, desk lamps have more charisma. To me, Bush is charismatic like a clown. I can't look away from him, out of equal parts amusement and fear. But that's just me, and I won't deny that he's definitely not a bore, anyway.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I have also seen John Kerry in person, by the way.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Indie, have you ever seen Bush in person? He's actually extremely charismatic. And I literally have never met one person, Republican or Democrat, who has seen him in person who doesn't agree. He is particularly charismatic when compared to John Kerry.
indielove indielove 9 years
Bush...charismatic? :rotfl:
indielove indielove 9 years
"Being able to raise a lot of money from small donors shows that you can inspire a lot of people, but that's just one aspect of being an effective president." Yes, it counts. I wouldn't downplay the fact that Obama inspired working class people to donate to his campaign. For some people, it takes a lot for them to open up their wallets when they have to work so hard for their money. These small donations have been the backbone of his campaign...this is what's kept it going. I'm sure Obama is very grateful to those who have donated even just $5 to the cause.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
See, I think it should be a small factor. To me, having feasible plans is much more important than "inspiring people." I think charisma factors in too much in American politics, which is probably why Bush won in 2004.
lula29 lula29 9 years
Not one thing is or should be the end all be all of whether not to to grant anyone the presidency, Republican, Democrat or other, however, it should factor in greatly.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
I think being able to raise money effictively is important, but the economics of campaigning is very tricky... Some people may not like the candidate but still support the party and donate to the party instead of the candidate... So I don't think party donations should be discounted entirely.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Being able to raise a lot of money from small donors shows that you can inspire a lot of people, but that's just one aspect of being an effective president. I think this ability should be looked at, but should not be the be-all and end-all of deciding whether someone will make a good president.
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