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Japan Getting Rid of Babies, US Woman Collecting Her 18th!

In Japan, a Roman Catholic hospital's controversial "storks' cradle" is a flyaway success. The hatch is designed to be a safe haven for unwanted babies, and officials say in the past year 16 years babies have been safely dropped off and more than 1,000 people have called for advice. The hatch ensures a safe drop-off point where unwanted children are placed anonymously and are guaranteed care by the hospital.

The program has received criticism from conservative politicians, but perseveres in the hope of preventing abortions and abuse against unwanted children. The director of the hospital says, "As I said when it was installed, it would be best if it were not used. . . . honestly speaking, I was surprised to see there were this many troubled mothers." He said the so-called Storks' Cradle "has performed a great role," bringing attention to problems from unwanted pregnancies. To see what's happening in the US,

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In related news, American super-mother Michelle Duggar has the extreme opposite problem. She has just announced that she is pregnant with her 18th child. She has been pregnant for 11 years of her life. She has seven girls and 10 boys, and said that she and her husband will keep having children as long as God wills it. The Duggar family has many shows on the Discovery Health Channel that I cannot stop watching.

Are either of these methods responsible ways to deal with child bearing? Is the safe drop-off spot a good way of dealing with unwanted pregnancies without resorting to abortion? Is having 18 children a responsible use of global resources? Are megafamilies okay if they're self-supporting? What if they're not?

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MaraJade06014 MaraJade06014 9 years
First, I think that she sees them as blessings from God, for her it is a religious choice, not tradition or social pressure. All of the children are home schooled, and yes they all help out with the chores. Honestly, I would be willing to bet they are a lot better behaved than many of the children who are only children. People who have only one child don't always take good care of them, so you can't judge her parenting skills on the number of children she has.
pargie pargie 9 years
The day that people stop having children because of population control, is a day I don't want to see. This is a crazy world. Sure, if you don't have the means to do so, then don't. But if you can and want to, do! Having that many kids is kind of over the top, but who am I to judge?
terryt18 terryt18 9 years
My grandmother had 14 children. My mother was lucky number 13.
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
IMO they used to have lots of kids because the death rate was so high, especially on farms. We've come a long way in the last 50-100 years in making the workplaces safer, and people no longer see the need to have 10-20 kids
chancleta chancleta 9 years
from what i've seen of these parents they really do love being parents are active, loving, committed, and financially capable so hey - more power to them
MarinerMandy MarinerMandy 9 years
"Another version of a mega family is a dead beat dad who knocks up a few women." True! At least these parents have a family unit, untraditional though it may be. I'm pretty sure there are several NBA players (cough, Shawn Kemp) with close to that many children, so I guess if someone is going to reproduce that much this is a far more ideal senario.
Meike Meike 9 years
It's frowned upon because people are just now being educated on what overpopulation will do to the world. A little over a century ago in the early 1900's, our world population was approximately 2 billion people. We've since more than tripled that and it's expected to reach 8 billion in 2020. Additionally, western society is starting to have a wave of people who are child-free by choice which breaks the traditional mold of building families. So, there seem to be more people who despise societal pressures to have children and seeing a family that completely embraces that tradition leaves a sour taste in their mouths.
CitizenSugar CitizenSugar 9 years
The oldest is 20. I know, I follow the family on Discovery Health like it's my job. It's a sickeness ;)
pargie pargie 9 years
Yes, back in the day women used to have tons of kids! It's amazing how its frowned upon now. I agree though, that it would be difficult to have special attention for each child..unless their births were spread out reasonably. I wonder how old the oldest child is.
princessjaslew princessjaslew 9 years
heh. my great grandmother had 20 children! Lucky for her, her husband stuck by her, no second or third wives. Her sons on the other hand practised polygamy (this was like back in the 60s when polygamy in asia was still permitted) but none of their wives ever produced that many children! the only danger i see really, is to the mother. can you imagine the kind of strain it places on her??!!!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
I think that's ridiculous. I'm glad that they're mostly self-sufficient, but I agree with some that have posted above. I don't think that you can effectively parent with that many children. I'm sure that they are more like a tribe than a family and that the older children help parent the younger children...but still. That woman has probably seriously shortened her life by doing this also. Her body must be ravaged.
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
I hear the Duggars are raising an army.
faerymagick15 faerymagick15 9 years
I had heard the Duggars have had stuff donated to them quite a bit...and I love children, but 18? I think its seriously selfish. How much quality time could each of those kids get with their parents? From what I have seen and heard those kids are all pretty much like slaves around the house. I am all for live and let live, but 18 children is just ridiculous. Can you imagine this woman's uterus? I don't know how she can keep having more and more. I actually feel bad for the kids.
sarahinparis sarahinparis 9 years
How is having 18 kids gross? I can see it being a lot of other things, crazy, stressful, expensive, . . ., but gross? Its 18 children, would it be any different spread over 6 families? I wouldn't/couldn't physically have 18 kids, but I might adopt a few. I think it would be wonderful to have the financial and mental ability to raise such a family - the holidays would be great! :) P.S. - I'm impressed her body can handle it - I'd be the size of house by the fifth one!
yesteryear yesteryear 9 years
i think having 18 kids is gross. period.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
cine_lover said: "Also, if people feel that having children is bad for the environment, sterilize yourself, but don't dictate what others choose to do with their body." I agree in principle, but it seems as though most of the time the people who *should* be sterilized, aren't. Even as a 13-year-old I thought everyone should be sterilized at puberty and have to apply for a parenting license to have it reversed.
annebreal annebreal 9 years
I think either way if the government is telling women what to do with their uteruses it's become a country I don't want to live in. Whatever floats your boat. And I wish more teen girls knew or had access to safe drop off points so there'd be less born in toilets or showers and disposed of.
Mädchen Mädchen 9 years
They've had those baby hatches in Germany for about 10 years now, the first one was installed after a series of abandoned babies had been found dead. In Germany, the mother has 8 weeks to return and claim her child (without any legal consequences) and only if this doesn't happen, the child will be put up for adoption. A number of women have actually returned to claim their children and there are people there to help them with the situation. I do believe that every person has a right to know who their parents are, so I'm not really a fan of anonymous adoptions like that, but I definitely prefer those hatches to babies being left on some street in the middle of winter.
Kelliegrl Kelliegrl 9 years
Regarding the woman who had her 18th, as long as she can pay for them without government assistance who am I to judge.
stephley stephley 9 years
But its probably the more common version...
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
"Another version of a mega family is a dead beat dad who knocks up a few women." This is the bad version.
Geisha-Runner Geisha-Runner 9 years
Drop off locations for unwated babies is a good idea. Life would be better if we didn't need them at all, but this isn't a perfect world. I do have to say that 18 kids does seem a little extreme to me. Not saying it's a bad thing, as long as you can handle it financially and emtionally. Rock on if you can do it!
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Well correct me if I'm wrong but haven't all hospitals in the U.S. been designated safe drop off points for many years now? As for the mega family seems a little crazy to me but if they're self sustaining I guess that's the best way to do it. Another version of a mega family is a dead beat dad who knocks up a few women.
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
They seem to be pretty effective, from the shows I have seen. Although really they need to do something with their hair. They need a make-over show. I grew up with a family of 16 kids down the street from me and their kids were so well behaved. Everyone just loved them.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
The Duggars are actually financially viable AND they NO DEBT! None! At all! They always buy stuff secondhand, the fix thier own cars, they built their own house... so they are viable. But I think I agree with you Steph, its their right to have that many kids, but I don't think you can be an effective parent to that many kids... there's only so many hours in a day!
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