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John McCain Has Double Digit Lead Over Democrats

John McCain is pulling away from his Democratic challengers. The latest Rasmussen Reports poll shows McCain at 49 percent vs. Obama at 42 percent. When matched against Hillary Clinton, McCain leads 51 percent to 41 percent.

McCain knows that polls are as fickle as the voters. He saw for himself that vast leads in the polls can be little more than a mirage, as his candidacy rose from the dead during the primary season. But, I am sure he hopes this lead sticks.

Perhaps these numbers indicate that the drawn-out Democrat race is turning off the voters. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are fielding criticism from two fronts, while having only half the time to go after McCain. Even if it's too early for these numbers to predict what will happen in November, do you think it will influence how the Democrats run their campaigns? Will it make a difference when the Democrats have a nominee?

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Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
As for the economy, in many ways I think it’s due to our short-sighted approach to nearly everything these days. • I don’t want to take the time to plan meals for the week and go the grocery store. We’ll just grab fast food and I’ll worry about it later. • I want a new designer handbag, I’ll just charge it and worry about how to pay for it when the bill comes. • I want a big, new house in a nice neighborhood. Surely by the time the interest rate increase / balloon payment / etc. kicks in, I’ll have a raise / husband / inheritance / job. Or, in the case of the government: • Housing prices keep going up, so tax revenues will, too. No end in sight. • We’ve had a 5-year trend of increased student enrollment, so we have to buy land and build new schools. • We’ve had plenty of rain the last couple of years, why spend the money on desalination plants. • These costs are an anomaly, we’ll just sell some bonds and worry about redeeming them later. • Don’t worry about road repairs, we need the money for the Legislature travel fund.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
Gas prices are like everything else, subject to the laws of supply and demand. The major source of supply is pretty tightly regulated by OPEC. I can’t really fault them for that, it’s the most valuable resource that part of the world has, and it’s not renewable. As for the demand side, China is rapidly industrializing. More people in India buying cars, like those new little Tatas, driving up demand there, also. Our gasoline costs here in the US are also increased by environmental regulations which increase the cost of refining and production. Here’s another thought: Every dollar spent on defense goes right back into the US economy. It goes for procurement, research and development of new weapons and defense technology, salaries for military personnel. Not to mention the fact that it makes me less likely to be killed in some random attack. So that money is “wasted” how?
mymellowman mymellowman 9 years
"That's a point of opinion that I won't try to argue with, because it goes to the conservative/liberal argument that no one can win" - I completely agree with you. That's a long road that will lead us no where. :) "Anyway, as someone who long ago dabbled in the conservative side of matters, I wonder what any classic conservatives here feel about the world-building aspect of the war?" - I agreed with much of your post miss Jude. I believe that first and foremost the role of the federal government is to protect us, even if taxes are incurred as a result. Beyond this, now that we are strecthing into the "rebuilding" aspect, we enter into a grey area for me that needs balance (and I do not believe we are there.) If we are not involved in rebuilding, the end result will be a mess that was worse than before we entered. The flip-side of that is that there do need to be limits onto how much we pour in. I wind up defending Bush much more than I like on these board mainly because I feel he is dragged out much further than he should be. I mention this because I do believe things have been mishandled and I don't believe we'll see them fixed during his admin. What do I do? I look to the future with McCain being able to come in and bring reign to a situation which has grown past what is acceptable. On the flip side, I think we'll be in a worse sitaution with either Hillary or Obama because they will have a hard time with Congress trying to just pull out of Iraq and I believe as they go to push their social program the country will wind up flipping the bill on a huge amount of social programs will the bill for Iraq continues. I believe McCain can pull back the costs without exerting us further on social programs the Fed should not have involvement in.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
"Whether or not we end this war, the Federal government shouldn't be involving themselves in socialistic healthcare programs." That's a point of opinion that I won't try to argue with, because it goes to the conservative/liberal argument that no one can win :) but I will say that no matter whether you think those national monies should be spent on something else, or not collected from taxpayers at all, it can't be denied that there are vast amounts of money currently being hurled at one specific cause which could either be spread to other issues or used to strengthen consumer spending by being left in taxpayers' pockets by cutting taxes as per conservative ideals. Anyway, as someone who long ago dabbled in the conservative side of matters, I wonder what any classic conservatives here feel about the world-building aspect of the war?
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
I was thinking the same thing, 3M. Also, I don't think anyone here is denying that the war has had an effect on the money our nation has to spend on other things. However, I still haven't received an answer to my question of how having McCain in office is going to lead to higher gas prices. Also, I still haven't heard defense for the idea that the war is the primary cause of our current economic crisis. Maybe when indie's comment posts, I will get some of those answers.
mymellowman mymellowman 9 years
"There's virtually no hope for 'universal health care' or at least a better healthcare system without the end to this debilitating war." - Whether or not we end this war, the Federal government shouldn't be involving themselves in socialistic healthcare programs.
indielove indielove 9 years
THANK YOU, Jude. I don't see how that amount of money doesn't have as much shock value. THIS is just one reason why we need Obama to end this war as soon as possible. There's virtually no hope for 'universal health care' or at least a better healthcare system without the end to this debilitating war.
indielove indielove 9 years
My last post got flagged, let's see it'll come up. There were links I referenced. By the way, as someone who has some knowledge of the Forex market and a little about stocks(that will change soon enough as I study more and start trading), I don't find opinion pieces to be as useful as analysis. Truth be told, I had a hard time finding cold, hard facts besides the trends I see, personally, in the markets(the charts). If you guys know stocks(I honestly don't know if you do or not) you could understand, at least a little, where I'm coming from here.
Jude-C Jude-C 9 years
Did y'all know that the cost of the Iraq war has drained the American government's purse to such an extent that the idea of privatizing public roads is now being bandied about? What about all the other public programs getting short shrift and the taxpayer dollars going to fund a misguided incursion based on lies and Halliburton interests? The National Priorities Project currently estimates the cost of the war as $341.4 million dollars per day. The cost of the war to the state of California in 2007 alone could have provided nearly 24 million people with health care, 21.5 of them children, or nearly 6,000 new elementary schools. We cannot afford to drag this war on indefinitely. America needs the funds being spent on this conflict to handle incredibly important issues within our own borders, such as health care and education. Even at the DNC's estimate of $200 million per day spent on the Iraq war, doesn't that alarm anyone? $200 million a day. Think about how many lives could be improved with that much money. Instead it's being thrown at a war that some would allow to continue indefinitely.
indielove indielove 9 years
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSL2386531020080123 http://useconomy.about.com/od/supply/p/oil_gas_prices.htm http://www2.barchart.com/mktcom.asp?code=BSTK§ion=energies stock quotes. looks good, doesn't it? Yeah, it doesn't affect the economy when we have to spend MORE to buy crude oil, then the consumer has to pay MORE for gasoline when theres not as much money as we'd like circulating in the economy which prompted Bush to push for sending out rebate checks. No trouble here! The whole Bear Stearns debacle is just make-believe. Pshaw!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Thanks, 3M. You said what I was thinking, but I couldn't formulate the correct words to say it.
mymellowman mymellowman 9 years
"I get the feeling that some people around here would say anything to brush the real issues under the rug." - Well, considering instead of addressing why gas prices would rise you want to talk about the cost of the war in Iraq, I think you've hit the nail on the head here. :) "Have you looked at the stock market lately? Do you have any idea the grave situation this country is in?" - The situation with the economy has been thrown into the massive turmoil over the situation with the mortgage companies selling very risky debt on the open market with investors buying up the debt hoping to turn a quick profit, by people taking out mortgages on over inflated housing market prices, by people taking out variable rate mortgages that balloon in payment size that they can not afford and a grave amount of overspending and over extending on people's credit due to purchasing outside of their means. Has the price of the war had any effect on our economy? Yes, but the facts remain that the major part of what is occuring in the market today is a result of the mortgage, housing and credit industries practices coupled with individuals making very unwise decisions. This is why are economy if completely screwed at the moment. If you can find factual information to back how the war been the major influence in our economie's down turn, I would be very interested to read up on it. "If you're spending a huge chunk of your budget on war, how much money do you have to spend on buying oil and selling gasoline at a relatively cheap prices to the public? Oh, chances are slim." - The US Government does not buy or sell oil to the American ublic. The price of crude oil is set by the OPEC nations who produce the oil. Our government does not subsidize he cost of oil. "Where's the US getting it's oil from anyway? Any from Venezuela? If so, I'm sure Chavez is gouging the US...not that it's a huge secret that he hates Bush." - Yes, we get some oil from Venezuela, but in whole, OPEC is gouging us on oil prices. Why? Most of these countries are Middle Eastern countries that their main cash export is oil. They also realize that there is only so much left and once it is gone, they have no money to make, thus they gouge us on the price of oil and it will only get worse. It doesn't matter how nice we are to OPEC, they are trying to cash out on their resource for as long as they can.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
And, you're right, it does seem like some people on here would say anything to sweep the real issues under the rug. I mean, some people would even go so low as to criticize the way McCain looks, rather than commenting on his stance on the issues.
indielove indielove 9 years
Ok then, revision time. 12 bil a month(stats from 2007). 12 months a year. 100 years.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
That's incredibly rude, especially considering that you claim to be an open-minded person who is willing to listen to all sides of an issue. As for the cost of war affecting the economy, I see how it does, but not in the way that you're stating. Last I checked the U.S. government doesn't buy oil to sell to its citizens; private companies sell oil and gasoline. And do you have any evidence of the cost of the war affecting the stock market?
indielove indielove 9 years
Yes, I do view it as a moot point. Actually, most things you say I do view that way. :)
indielove indielove 9 years
I get the feeling that some people around here would say anything to brush the real issues under the rug. Have you looked at the stock market lately? Do you have any idea the grave situation this country is in? If you're spending a huge chunk of your budget on war, how much money do you have to spend on buying oil and selling gasoline at a relatively cheap prices to the public? Oh, chances are slim. Where's the US getting it's oil from anyway? Any from Venezuela? If so, I'm sure Chavez is gouging the US...not that it's a huge secret that he hates Bush. It's hardly illogical to believe that the war wouldn't affect gas prices or help ruin the economy. We're more than halfway there.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Also, and you may view this as a moot point, since it's still a huge number, but where are you getting the $12 billion a day figure? Even the DNC puts it at $200 million a day. Still a large number, but a lot smaller than $12 billion.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
The 100 years comment was taken so out of context. McCain was saying that he will stay in Iraq as long as it takes to stabilize the region. In addition to this, as Iraq becomes more stable, the cost of each day will lower because there will be fewer troops. Also, the cost of the war doesn't answer my question about gas prices or the world crashing in any way.
indielove indielove 9 years
"And ShePirate, what about McCain's plans makes you think that gas prices will climb more steadily under him than either Democrat and that "this world is gonna crash?" Well, let's see...the war costs the US approximately $12 billion a day. 12,000,000,000 x 365 days a year x 100 years = ??? Oh, don't forget the 25 extra days for the next hundred years....leap year days. (12,000,000,000 x 365 x 100) + (12,0000 x 25) = ??? Do the math.
mymellowman mymellowman 9 years
Harmony: I agree with lilkimbo in regards to the polls. Additionally, of all polls, I really like Rasmussen. Some may have a reason to disagree with me, and if you do I would really, really love to hear from you, but all-in-all I find Rasmussen to be pretty objective in their pollings and reportings. I also like that they are constant and (depending on the poll) can be updated as often as daily, which helps to show trends in their findings and how recent current events have affected the candidates and the polls. Another aspect that is important to me is that they're not a news outlet and I find that is a major reason why i like their polls. When it comes to polls from a news channel or paper, I feel I always have to take their numbers with a grain of salt, whether it be fox news or the new york times, with Rasmussen, i feel the numbers are less padded. Last, while March numbers or no clear indication of November, it is important to watch how the general public is thinking along the road and what items tend to cause a fluctuation in the terms of how people may vote. All-in-all, the numbers really aren't going to show too many signs until the Dems figure out their nom. That decision will probably make the biggest change in how people are voting, but it still fun to see what is going on in the process.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 9 years
Harmonyfrance, they use a random sampling, usually by phone. Depending on the sample size, the polls are actually somewhat accurate, but are flawed (what about people who don't have phones, etc.) Most of the polls have a 5 point margin of error. So, if the race were held tomorrow, yeah, McCain would probably win. But, November is a long way away. Also, Orianna, I see that this isn't the be all and end all of good news, but I still think it's good news for the McCain campaign. I mean, whenever your numbers go up in these polls, it's good news. Does it mean he's going to win come November? Not necessarily. Is it good news? Yes. And ShePirate, what about McCain's plans makes you think that gas prices will climb more steadily under him than either Democrat and that "this world is gonna crash?"
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
And honestly...who are they asking on these polls? No one's ever asked me or anyone I know. How accurate could they be? Does anybody know how this works? :?
jen22 jen22 9 years
I don't think you can trust any polls right now. Its too early in the game and polls change quickly. But I do agree with the comments up above that once they have a nominee the democrats will unite.
ShePirate2010 ShePirate2010 9 years
he'd better not win! America will go down soooooooooooo bad! gas prices will just get higher and this world is gonna crash!
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