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Lawmakers Crack Down on Guns After Shooting Rampages

Shooting rampages filled today's headlines. In Alabama, a man killed a dozen people, including the members of his own family. Over in Germany, a 17-year-old boy attacked a high school, killing at least 16 people.

When attacks occur, European countries often hurry to tighten gun laws. Following two school massacres within a year, Finland announced plans today to raise the minimum age for handgun ownership from 15 to 20. In Belgium, lawmakers passed strict gun laws in 2006 after a racially motivated shooting of a toddler and her black babysitter. In Portugal, the parliament is considering denying bail to anyone suspected of a gun crime.

American lawmakers have responded, too. After the Virginia Tech massacre, the governor signed an executive order requiring that anyone ordered by law to get mental health treatment be added to a database of people barred from buying guns.

Do you think this is the correct response to gun-related tragedies?

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stephley stephley 8 years
Silly straw man questions should be completely outlawed. But then an awful lot of people here would be rendered mute.
chatondeneige chatondeneige 8 years
That still doesn't answer the question. Shouldn't backyard pools be completely outlawed?
stephley stephley 8 years
Haus asked for numbers - read the comments leading up to them. :) :)
lovelie lovelie 8 years
Wow, this is quite the thread...three days and running.
Grandpa Grandpa 8 years
:Rotfl: Tard = yard :rotfl:
Grandpa Grandpa 8 years
Steph, YOU were the one that posted the statistics of gun ownership, and firearm related deaths, by year here. So, those are your raw numbers not Haus's :-)
Grandpa Grandpa 8 years
Steph, what is the purpose of a pool in a back tard? It is merely a luxery. If we can save just ONE life, by banning, and filling inall those pools isn't it wortth it? I find it amazing that when you get a homeowners insurance policy, they charge you much more if you own a pool, and do not even ask about gun ownership.
stephley stephley 8 years
You're having so much fun by yourself...
Roarman Roarman 8 years
Wow, reading all of this was exhausting. Im going to take a nap now.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Feel free to correct me Steph if I got that wrong. But thats what I took from your argument.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Gpa - It's a losing battle. The prevailing wisdom from Ms. Stephley seems to be that since guns only have one purpose (not true) they should be outlawed. It doesn't matter that swimming pools, cars, etc kill exponentially more people because they aren't intended for that purpose. Just like it says in Freakenomics, since there is less of a percieved tragedy when someone dies in a swimming pool, its ok to keep those around.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Interesting that you distort it down to "feel safe" not "be safe". Would you say that people only buy health insurance (or any kind of insurance) just to "feel" safe and not "be" safe? In the midst of being attacked, mugged, or possibly raped, I doubt anyone would tell you they just want to "feel" safe. I think they'd probably want to BE safe.
stephley stephley 8 years
No G'pa, Haus is Ms. Statistics. I will point out that people don't carry swimming pools with them in case they need to drown someone to feel safe.
Grandpa Grandpa 8 years
I have just four questions: First, how many murders have been committed by individuals who had valid concealed carry permits in lest say the last 50 years? Second, all those statistics you quote for annual death by firearms. How many were suicides? Third, How many of those killings involved known ‘gang bangers”/ Fourth, how many people drown annually in backyard pools? Steph, you love statistics, can you help me here?
organicsugr organicsugr 8 years
Hey Harmony
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
ummmmm.... hi guys. That's all for now. :scared:
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
:)
bluesarahlou bluesarahlou 8 years
I agree with amy. But, she's my sister from another mister...so that's to be expected.
amybdk amybdk 8 years
I agree with genesis. This thread is getting too personal for my taste.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
I agree Gen, and I'd like to point out that it wasn't me who brought up the sanctity of life, it was Steph. And it's obvious she was alluding to the comments made on abortion threads. Steph - I'm sorry. I expected you to know why you chose that avatar. Clearly that was an unrealistic expectation.
genesisrocks genesisrocks 8 years
I'm having a hard time following this fight with some of the comments deleted but I'd like to point out that this is not an abortion topic.
stephley stephley 8 years
It's your analysis hon, don't ask for my help.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Well why did you choose it? I would think its because you think its a good way of framing an argument. But since it could be a bump sticker, it would be dumbing down an issue, by your logic, right?
stephley stephley 8 years
It is an avatar, not an argument. If you want to analyse and comment on it, be my guest.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
So then you don't believe you avatar is a valid argument?
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