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McCain Sheds His "Green Speech" Skin, Shines Amid Protests

McCain Sheds His "Green Speech" Skin, Shines Amid Protests

I might venture out on a limb and say McCain's speech in front of the National Federation of Independent Business yesterday helped to erase the mean, green debacle of a week ago. He was the old McCain again. Hey. You know what I mean.

He opened with a chuckler: "I have never run a small, struggling enterprise — unless you count my presidential campaign last year," but was soon interrupted by an anti-war protester who heckled him from the audience.

The woman burst out with "War is bad for small business!" McCain responded, "one of the things Americans are tired of, one of the things they're tired of is people yelling at each other in America, have you noticed that? They want us to respect each other's opinions. . . . Americans want a dialogue," to wild applause. After another protester jumped in and was lead away, McCain said, "now that we know, now that I know who I will be facing in the general election . . ."

To see my highlights, the parts that grabbed me — with a funny cherry on top at the end,


  • Americans do not resent paying their fair share of taxes. What they do resent, and especially if they're trying to run a business, is being subjected to thousands of pages of needless and often irrational rules and demands from the IRS.
  • We need rules that assure fairness and punish wrongdoing in the market and hold every businessperson in America to the same fair standards.
  • In so many ways, we need to make a clean break from the worst excesses of both political parties. And for Republicans, it starts with reclaiming our good name as the party of spending restraint. Somewhere along the way, too many Republicans in Congress became indistinguishable from the big-spending Democrats they used to oppose. The only power of government that could stop them was the power of veto, and it was rarely used. If that authority is entrusted to me, I will use the veto as needed. I will veto every bill with earmarks. I will seek a constitutionally valid line-item veto to end pork-barrel spending once and for all.
  • The even-handed pragmatism — and what seemed like a conservative renaissance — sung to me. OK, he did have a funny slip of the tongue when he delivered the last part. Why is McCain so anti-brew?

    Hee hee. And what was Cindy up to yesterday? A little shop-a-rama at Oscar de la Renta — a spree that went on a little longer than her poor Secret Service detail could bear, saying she'd been in the store "Waaayy too long" as he sweltered outside. Bah. Don't take a man shopping; they have no endurance for the important stuff.

    What did you think of McCain's speech? Is he upping his economy cred?


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lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Roarman, you should pay attention to what I wrote a little more closely. I said that in my opinion and in the traditionally conservative opinion spending should be kept low. No where did I say that spending is currently low. And you should also check your facts in relation to how much our country spends daily on the war in Iraq. Finally, I don't know what kind of doctors you're going to, but I can always get in to see my doctor within the week, have to wait less than 24 hours for test results, and have never had to wait when I had a "real" emergency.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
The private insurers and those making money off of health care in this country want us to believe that we have the best health care system in the world and that those countries with National Health Insurance have sub par care. It's just not true. We wait for hours in emergency rooms here, we wait weeks for tests, we have to make appts. three months out to see our doctor. We aren't on the cutting edge of research and treatments for things such as cancer. Teams of doctors from around the world work together on new treatments. "And, it is just a fundamental difference in ideology as to what is wrong with more taxes. In my opinion and in the traditionally conservative opinion, spending and taxes should both be as low as possible." Spending is not low, how can it be justified cutting taxes when we spend trillions a day on the war in Iraq?
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
Roarman, in re: to cutting taxes being irresponsible, there are plenty of economists who believe that cutting taxes actually increases tax revenue because the money is spent and/or it gives people jobs who then pay taxes etc. There are probably a million studies about this, but raising taxes might get you more money in year 1 and then less money in years 2 - 10. In re: to health care, I'd rather get sick here than anywhere else, even if it means I have to pay something for it, but that is just me. The thing I like about Obama's plan is that it does not require anyone to leave their private insurer.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
And, for me, the aversion to government run health care has its roots in the Constitution, as well. In addition, in many other countries, the government run health care does not run smoothly whatsoever.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Roarman, it is your opinion that these people aren't being taxed heavily now. In my opinion, when the lowest tax bracket is 10% and the highest is 35%, the people in that highest bracket are being taxed heavily. And, it is just a fundamental difference in ideology as to what is wrong with more taxes. In my opinion and in the traditionally conservative opinion, spending and taxes should both be as low as possible. This is derived in part from the Constitution, where powers not given to the federal government are designated to the states. In my opinion, the federal government is too vast and many, many programs should be cut before we even consider raising taxes.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
Why the aversion to government run health care when it works so well in other thriving nations? Why are we so afraid of it? Why is it called socialism when a government sets up systems that offer it's citizens basic needs? Those aren't free programs, they are tax driven. OOHH, taxes the big boogeyman in this country.
Roarman Roarman 8 years
I think Bush needed that extra time to figure out what and where the World Trade Center was. :|
Roarman Roarman 8 years
What is wrong with more taxes? When our economy is struggling like it is right now, with a trillion dollar deficit that increases by the minute, how is it fiscally responsible to cut taxes? I also don't see anything wrong with expecting the extremely wealthy to pay a heftier share of those taxes. As cabaker said, "I think we forget sometimes that the wealthiest people also spend the most money and when we heavily tax them, they will cut back just like everyone else". They aren't being heavily taxed now and our economy is struggling, so how will taxing them more have an effect other than generating revenue? BIg corporations are getting huge tax breaks now and they are still outsourcing there work. If they were given more tax breaks, they would just take more income, I don't feel it would prompt them to keep the work here.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
Thanks for the info Sy! :highfive:
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
Hi lil! I am going for a walk now, because someone just pissed me off on the phone, but I wanted to say hi!~ :wave:
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
And I agree with cine, :highfive: to sy!
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Also, just to point out from forever ago in the comments, McCain doesn't want further tax cuts; he wants to keep the tax cuts enacted a while back. And, McCain doesn't want to just stop pork; he also has plans to cut other programs. Even he acknowledges that stopping earmarks will just put a small dent in the federal debt.
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
I am on the phone trying to figure out some work stuff, but I just had to chime in :highfive: to sy! And to Jill, whenever ANYONE does something socialistic I call them on it. I don't care what political party they are apart of.
lilkimbo lilkimbo 8 years
Jill, as you have pointed out many times, things in politics are much more nuanced than pulling a few quotes. When McCain says things like that, he has something completely different in mind than Obama; I think you would agree with that. The disagreement lies in which plan is "better."
UnDave35 UnDave35 8 years
Godd afternoon everyone. Have I missed anything?
syako syako 8 years
in reference to corporate taxes... not only does he want to close loopholes and streamline the tax system
  • John McCain Will Propose An Alternative New And Simpler Tax System...When this reform is enacted, all who wish to stay under the current system could still do so, but everyone else could choose a vastly less complicated system with two tax rates and a generous standard deduction. Americans do not resent paying their rightful share of taxes – what they do resent is being subjected to thousands of pages of needless and often irrational rules and demands from the IRS.
he also wants to decrease taxes on American companies
  • John McCain Will Reduce The Federal Corporate Tax Rate To 25 Percent From 35 Percent. John McCain believes the taxes we impose on American companies should be no higher than the average rate our major trading partners impose on theirs. We currently have the second-highest combined corporate-tax rate in the industrialized world, and it is driving many businesses and the jobs they create overseas.
syako syako 8 years
from June 6, 2008 btw.
syako syako 8 years
I don't see this being socialist: "As the worst single monthly increase in the unemployment rate in two decades clearly shows, Americans across this country are hurting, and we must act now to support workers, families and employers alike. This means getting our economy back on track by providing immediate tax relief, enacting a HOME plan to help those facing foreclosure, lowering health care costs, investing in innovation, moving toward energy independence and opening foreign markets to our goods. These policies will help small businesses create the jobs that families need today. The American people cannot afford more inaction from Washington. The wrong change for our country would be an economic agenda based upon the policies of the past that advocate higher taxes, bigger government, government-run health care and greater isolationism. To help families at this critical time, we cannot afford to go backward as Senator Obama advocates." -McCain
Jillness Jillness 8 years
I am going to plead the 5th on the resume Rac...;) In McCain's speech, he said: "I have made that commitment with reforms to expand and improve federal aid to American workers in need." So when Obama suggests something similar it is socialism, but when McCain says it, it isn't? ;? He also says he wants to close the corporate tax loopholes. Again, when Obama proposes it people suggest it will bring down business, but when McCain says it, none of his supporters protest. Odd.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
As for Bush's reaction. Who knows what anyone would have done. I would like to believe that McCain wouldn't have disappeared for 6 hours in a plane or to a private location while the country was being attacked. Maybe it's SOP, but it was a great chance for someone to react immediately to allay some of our worst fears in those dark hours.
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
No. Sy and M3. My sarcasm detector hit 6. It's been acting up a little so maybe I'm wrong. But still ...
cine_lover cine_lover 8 years
I am with you on that one Cab.
hausfrau hausfrau 8 years
who me? no i'm being serious. though i don't get why people give bush crap for not jumping up and running out of the room screaming the instant he heard the news. if it were me, i know i would have taken a moment to collect my thoughts and i wouldn't have wanted to scare the children.
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 8 years
"I could see John McCain bursting through the wall of the elementary school similar to the Incredible Hulk, if he had been in those shoes....." See now I'm thinking Kool Aid commecial. Oh Yeah!
raciccarone raciccarone 8 years
I don't understand. Are you two being sarcastic? Do you really think Bush did a good job on 9/11? I can't tell if you're having a laugh.
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