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"Men at Work" Signs Out in Atlanta: Sensible or Out to Lunch?

"Men at Work" Signs Out in Atlanta: Sensible or Out to Lunch?

Heading to Hotlanta sometime soon? Don't be surprised if you see construction workers hard at work — without the ubiquitous "Men at Work" sign. Based on complaints by the editor of Pink magazine, a publication devoted to professional women, the Atlanta, GA, Public Works are replacing the manly placards with the more gender-neutral wording "Workers Ahead."

State officials will begin asking contractors to remove signs that insinuate it's just the men doing the heavy lifting — but the, perhaps, more-enlightened wording comes with a price: the new signs will cost $144 a piece. Not content to let the campaign for gender neutrality stop at the stomping ground of the Designing Women, the crusading editor is taking her cause nationwide. "We're calling on the rest of the nation to follow suit and make a statement that we will not accept these subtle forms of discrimination."

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UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
Not in my house you're not.. ;) JK
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
:) that made me laugh
javsmav javsmav 9 years
"handicapped parking signs, the figure isnt wearing a skirt, so just men are handicapped and can park there?" I believe we're allowed to wear pants now.
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
Meaning that they were open in the back and everyone's butt was hanging out? I'm OK with protesting that. Why is that not a problem worth fixing? The thing is, there are a million types of feminists and we all work for women's rights in different ways. We don't all look the same (so I don't know how you can stay away from them when you don't know who they are) and we don't all believe the same things. But what we all want is to end discrimination against women. And any time you fight discrimination you are bound to look foolish. But that doesn't mean what you are doing is not worthwhile. So, even if it's not the hill I'd choose to die on, I back people who are working toward causes I believe in. By the way, thanks for mentioning Lydia Taft. I hadn't heard of her before. Interesting way of applying the "taxation without representation" argument to women.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
Valan, I dont know any personally, I stay away from them on purpose. BUT they did protest at my work once because the hospital gowns were too "revealing"
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
Well ... the number of sports for boys vs. girls is just one way to measure equality, and if that's the method you choose, then ... you can't be upset when that means you have to cut something. The districts could also add girls' sports if they are that set on having equal numbers ... I wonder why they don't ... Frankly, I think a pure number count is missing the issue. If you have 7 sports for each gender, but football and men's basketball get 10x the funding of the other sports, that's not fair to anyone. And the argument that those sports bring in revenue so they need more funding just makes schoolkids into moneymakers and minimizes their student status, which is the whole reason they're there ... so I reject that too. Every athlete - boy, girl, football, tennis, cheerleading, whatever - should get the same amount of resources and the same amount of respect. I learned this week that the US is a rarity in having most sports teams tied to schools. Apparently in other countries your team is tied to a neighborhood association. Which means, I guess, that each team has to raise its own funds. I wonder if that would be a better solution ...
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
Yes, but it's long been used to say there should be as many girl's sports as there are boy's sports. So if a school has more Boy's sports than Girl's sports, or vice versa, then the school reduces the sports until they are equal.
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
CaterpillarGirl, I guess you don't know the feminists I know.
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
That's an interpretation issue ... all Title IX says is this: "No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance." You'll notice this could be used to increase the funding for boys' sports, at a school where there was more funding for girls' sports. Equality goes both ways.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
Lydia Taft, the first woman to vote in this country, was a homemaker with 8 children, she would probably be told now by feminists that her "job" as housewife is demeaning.
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
"...girls' sports are funded as well as boys',..." Interestingly enough, Title IX, which requires funding for an equal number of girls's and boys' sports, is why several school districts in WI are dropping some boy's programs.
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
"Whining feminists" have gotten us a lot of rights ... it's because of them that you can vote, that it's illegal for someone to refuse to hire you b/c you're female, that girls' sports are funded as well as boys', that you can keep your own credit rating separate from your husband's. I'm not saying this was the most important issue ever ... but decades ago, no one thought any of those issues were important, either, and it's because of those "whining feminists" that we have the rights we do.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
a sign is sexist now? God this is why I cant stand my own gender sometimes, are we supposed to send the PC police to check all the signage in america now, to make sure the whining feminist arent offended? --handicapped parking signs, the figure isnt wearing a skirt, so just men are handicapped and can park there? it needs to have little boob buds and a bow. I wonder if there are other signs equally as offensive, anyone?
secretallstar secretallstar 9 years
Here in NY we've got these signs that say, in kiddie font, `slow down, my mommy works here' and there are ones that say daddy too. On the surface, yes it seems a little silly to worry about a sign, and yes we do have many many other problems we should be focusing on. But in the US, where women are nominally treated the same as men, if we don't fix the details, we'll never get all the way there. Plus if a sign says `workers ahead' rather than men, maybe a girl would be more likely to consider a construction career and really be able to tackle those sexist issues like discrimination and harrassment.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
that's awesome! thanks! i don't feel very awake today. :)
CitizenSugar CitizenSugar 9 years
It's more like "man at work!" Tee Hee KrisSugar. That's some snappy analysis in the morning. Nice :)
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
I remember the stickers YY. They should go on Dolce and Gabanna ads.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
Sometimes I scoff at the idea of "men at work" because half the time they are all standing around leaning on a shovel while they watch one guy dig a hole. it's more like "man at work!"
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
i see the point, but it seems rather silly to be so offended by it. Aren't there plenty of things going on in the world to spend time protesting? Darfur, Tibet, people actually suffering. On the subject of the song, I once went to a seminar put on by an Australian horse trainer. He ended the event by riding around the arena to this song. It was kind of like dressage, but with his own variations, and he ended by getting his horse to lay down and then he stood on it. It almost outwierded the video!
yesteryear yesteryear 9 years
off topic: does anyone else remember those stickers you used to be able to buy that said "this insults women"? i had a roll that i used to stick up on things that i thought were offensive, like calvin klein ads (it was the 90s!!).
stephley stephley 9 years
What surprises me about the story is the small number of complaints the city seems to be responding to - one woman spraypainting signs. The union leader says her members had complained over the years, but nothing seems to have happened until the chick with a can of spray paint. Maybe I should buy some...
valancyjane valancyjane 9 years
Chellybean, the way you change the theory of the generic pronoun being masculine is to not let it be -- by changes like this. People need to be called out for their lazy language and realize what their words are actually saying. Little things add up. I would have been fine with replacing signs as they wore out, but this is absolutely a positive thing.
bleached bleached 9 years
Yay! I love this song! Vegemite is gross...
javsmav javsmav 9 years
The generic pronoun isn't masculine to me! I always use gender neutral language--or my generic pronoun is feminine. Yes, this is wasteful, so they shouldn't have to go out and change signs immediately. But when they do buy new signs, then they should absolutely get rid of the sexist language.
chellybean chellybean 9 years
I don't have a problem with saying things like "men at work" and "postman" or "salesman"...because, grammatically, the generic pronoun is masculine. Which sucks, but maybe we should change that first?
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