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New Sex Crime: Injecting People With HIV

I don't know what this world is coming to — I just read a news article about two men convicted of infecting 14 semi-conscious men at sex parties with HIV. The incidences happened in Amsterdam between January 2006 and May 2007. It's possible that these two men drugged the others with a date-rape drug before assaulting them, but that has yet to be proven. A panel of three judges concluded that one of the men repeatedly injected others with HIV in an attempt "to bring this same hurt to others."

All 14 men tested positive for HIV, but since they all took part in unprotected orgies, it can't be proven whether they were infected by the injections or by their own actions. While you'd think these two men convicted would be charged with attempted murder, they were not, since Dutch courts feel that HIV is a chronic illness, not necessarily a fatal one.

We have enough crime out there as it is, but apparently we have this kind to worry about, too. What do you think about this frightening news?


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divinelight divinelight 8 years
My friend says they discussed something like this in one of his classes about how some people who find out they have HIV want to take others down with them. It's horrible and sickening.
LoveSarah LoveSarah 8 years
This makes me sick, but it honestly doesn't surprise me.
sorrowja sorrowja 8 years
Oh and I heard of stories where people would put needles in the call box so if your call didn't go through and you tried to get your change out you would get stick. Like someone said before you can't trust anyone with your life even when I go to the doctor I have my eyes open. It's your life you only have one and if you don't protect it then who will.
sorrowja sorrowja 8 years
I feel sad for the 14 people infected and believe that the two guys should be charged for murder. However, if you put yourself out there anything is possible "All 14 men tested positive for HIV, but since they all took part in unprotected orgies" we hear of stories like this ALL the time. We all need to be accountable for our actions and with ever thing in life there are consequence it's just unfortunate that some of them are fetal.
berrypeachie berrypeachie 8 years
Its horrifying how much the world has changed. Also how little people know about HIV and AIDS and how it is spread. Its not always through a sex partner, but in this instance through cases of needles and people injecting others with the drug. Its absolutely disgusting and horrifying how unsafe everything can be. Then again there are probably more accounts like these where people are injected, its just people don't want to talk about it.
linditamaria linditamaria 8 years
TidalWave23 - my mom was always wary of allowing me to go to the movies when i was younger because of the reports. we heard they stuck the needles in the cushions. every time i go to the movies, i always think about that and how easily someone could get away with it. crazy...
missceego0711 missceego0711 8 years
Why would someone do that? Make absolutely no sense. I hope the men that did this get whats coming to them big time and they really suffer. They changed 14 people's life forever, and some of them might lose their jobs and family over this. Sad to see what people are really capable of.
ilanac13 ilanac13 8 years
i think that it's a sad person that goes to these lengths. i don't know why you would want to make ANYONE suffer like that just because you're dealing with it. it's horrible and i hope that there's some justice coming to this case.
GScott86 GScott86 8 years
Frankly if it can be proven the virus was in the syringe, let alone if it was even used. They need to be charged with premediated murder in the least. And even with the orgies, I figured if you're HIV positive, you're supposed to let partners know (who at least are clean) that you have the disease. But then again, it's kinda silly to take part in unprotected sexual orgies unless you're going STD shopping. Someone there's bound to have something. Death sentence either way. But yeh...running around with that virus...frankly should be a federal crime.
PiNkY-PiNk PiNkY-PiNk 8 years
for anyone who wishes that kind of pain (ond acts on it) to anybody else, I wish them a very slow and very painful death.
kiwitwist kiwitwist 8 years
OMG this is disgusting
Mesayme Mesayme 8 years
Rampant on college campuses and high schools also.
shydcgirl28 shydcgirl28 8 years
So sad. It's unfortunate that someone could even imagine doing this to anyone, how heartless.
margokhal margokhal 8 years
I agree with some of the comments above, people attempting to infect and give others death sentences such as HIV/AIDS is not all that uncommon. My father works in a hospital, and frequently, when some patients are told that they have HIV/AIDS, they get frustrated and angry. They caught one guy a while ago for grabbing a needle, pricking himself, and then attempting to prick ANY AND EVERYONE else he passed by in the hospital to infect them. He said that it wasn't fair that he had to die that way, and he was going to "bring this hurt on everyone else." People do all sorts of scary, horrendous things nowaydays, and I don't put anything past anyone. I'm never really surprised when crazy things escalate into something "new" like this.
Mesayme Mesayme 8 years
This happens all the time. It's not isolated. Men infect their wives because they don't want to admit to cheating. It's been happening since the 80's you're just hearing about this? Really?
ldsims ldsims 8 years
heidi-girl heidi-girl 8 years
I am in shock. This is absolutely disturbing. What kind of world do we live in, that people feel the need to resort to this?
Berlin Berlin 8 years
This is in Amsterdam, so we must remember that laws are far different. They may not see that knowingly infecting someone with AIDS is that punishable by a crime, and in this case, they also can't rule out the fact that they didn't contract the disease by unprotected sex and the injection was just from a drug. But yes, still horrifying :(
sugar_me_sweet sugar_me_sweet 8 years
That is horrifying. Same thing as TidalWave23, when I was in high school, my friend told me about how people were pricking unsuspecting movie goers with HIV. I actually believed it when i was younger. Now i know something like that probably did happen.
nikecold nikecold 8 years
Oh this happened in my country. A girl took a few needles and went clubbing and started pricking people. :(
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
That's utterly terrifying.
cmd0610 cmd0610 8 years
i think if I had any innocence left to the horrors of the world it was taken away after reading this! I mean no words can describe how horrible and disgusting what those guys did is. But I am equally disturbed by the unprotected sex orgy- I mean . . come on . . unprotected? You are just asking for at least some type of STD doing that- of course they didn't deserve this but I mean they were still living very risky sex lives. . .
aka-Daria aka-Daria 8 years
effin disgusting. why would you want others to suffer the same way you are [assuming the ones who did it are themselves positive] i'm chubby and feel crappy [when i dont go to the gym] but i dont go around stuffing food down ppl's throats. i'm not religious nor do i believe the end of the world is coming in 2012, but...i seriously hope it does end then with these types of stories coming out, ugh...
ThePerfectScore ThePerfectScore 8 years
People are batshit crazy in the world! I swear I don't understand how people can be soo...... horrible.
c-a-t-h c-a-t-h 8 years
What a suck world we live in.
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