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New Study Says Warming Doesn't Worsen Hurricanes. Agree?

New Study Says Warming Doesn't Worsen Hurricanes. Agree?

A new study by high-level federal scientists may just vindicate those who doubt global warming is behind huge storms. The research meteorologist looked at the patterns of hurricanes brewing in the Atlantic Ocean and concluded that warmer temperatures will actually reduce the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic and those that connect with the coast.

Since Hurricane Katrina, scientists — including the one behind this new study — have tied the rise of hurricanes to global warming and hotter waters that fuel them. Even Al Gore the climate wizard himself has tied big storms to high temperatures.

In the study he argues ''against the notion that we've already seen a really dramatic increase in Atlantic hurricane activity resulting from greenhouse warming.'' The findings published yesterday in the Nature Geoscience, predict by the end of the century the number of hurricanes in the Atlantic will fall by 18 percent, and that we're merely in the midst of a multidecade cycle. Until the end of that cycle however, storms will continue to be wetter and fiercer.

Critics say the method used doesn't accurately model storms — and that the number of storms isn't as significant as the severity. With hurricane season kicking off on June 1, does this study finally take the wind out of the global warming bluster? Is it one dissenting opinion that stands out for being contrary, or is it an example of truth bucking the eco-trend?


JessNess JessNess 9 years
UnDave35- I understand exactly what you are saying and completely agree. In fact I work in the science field and am working on a degree in a field where people disagree with each other all the time. Im just saying that there is a past history of these government scientists being told to put out reports refuting global warming so you shouldn't just be ok this guy works for the government and is a scientists so he must be right. Now I am not a meteorologists but I think I have to side with the critics and say that its not the number (although it is high) that global warming is affecting but the severity of the storms
jennifer76 jennifer76 9 years
What I find a little ironic here is that the scientist who headed up this study was one of the original scientists who believed global warming was affecting storms. I don't remember the reaction at the time being "oh, well he's a federal scientist how are we supposed to believe that!?" He's refined his model and reversed his previous conclusions. I'm inclined to believe he's sincere, at the very least. Whether or not he's correct, I don't know. :?
raciccarone raciccarone 9 years
It's like when Fox News says "some people believe..." and I keep thinking who the hell are you asking?
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
I find it interesting and insulting that people on here question scientists whose findings don't agree with the current popular brandings. Just because someone in the scientific community disagrees, doesn't mean they're wrong or in the pocket of big oil etc... On another note, did anyone else notice the roof caps on those houses. How lazy can you be??
JessNess JessNess 9 years
I find "high-level FEDERAL scientists" suspicious because it is well known that past FEDERAL "scientists" have been told to debunk global warming before by the government.
leeluvfashion leeluvfashion 9 years
While I do believe we are going through a weather cycle, I also believe that global warming has worsened the effects. There for global warming is worsening the hurricanes; if global warming can effect everything else, why wouldn't it effect the storms? Common sense would tell you it would. "high-level federal scientists" yeah, so I'm supposed to believe what their saying because of that title; don't think so.
Jillness Jillness 9 years
I almost didn't recognise this thread without the crazies on here! :rant: They are so easy to spot because they don't recognize the respectful tone and open mindedness of Citizen members! :halo:
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
I dont think this will go on Yahoo because they had the same story in the headlines this morning and they don't repeat stories! So I think we're safe! I went to our local maritime museum, the biggest in the state last week and the docent was talking about the raising and lowering of the oceans and what parts of the town used to be underwater, then she said "the ocean levels raise and lower and have forever and its nothing to worry about" I was waiting for her to stop talking so I could ask her if that statement meant she didn't beleive in global warming but I never got the chance! Shoot!
KDwxgirl KDwxgirl 9 years
Hollywoodjess, it's not that you're wrong that warm oceans are required for hurricanes. That is absolutely true. And so yes, it is logical that warmer ocean would mean more hurricanes. But climate change also affects things like average wind speed and direction and overall weather patterns, which are just as important to tropical storm formation as warm oceans. I can't access the Nature article because I don't have a subscription, but my guess is that it echos prior climate change research that shows shifting wind patterns over the tropicals that create a more hostile environment for hurricane formation.
Hollywoodjess Hollywoodjess 9 years
This does not make sense to me. Then everything I have learned in college is false; my biology classes have constantly told me that warmer ocean temperatures lead to more storms. This makes sense and IS true. Warm water temperatures are a major factor in hurricanes; the warmer the temperature, the bigger the storm. Notice high temperatures right now? Notice storm watches? How can these new researches detect this when for YEARS science has leaned in the opposite direction? Either some rewrites on books are going to have to be done or more research. On another note, Global Warming is not new, this has been happening for SEVERAL years...This has been a topic in presidency campaigns for a long time now, and have just recently been pressed in the media. It is happening, maybe not to the discrepancy that people make it to be, but it is happening. The earth will get hotter for the next billion years. It is all science. It is all imminent. It can't be stopped drastically; it can only be aided, especially with the growing economy and population.
CitizenSugar CitizenSugar 9 years
I didn't mean to make it seem like I was saying this disproves global warming — the article just addressed the link between it and hurricanes, I was trying to highlight that. And the original article does say that other scientific communities agree with this. I was just pointing out the most recent study in the subject. :)
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Yoohoo...Yahoo, where are you?
KDwxgirl KDwxgirl 9 years
Citizen, I think you're interpreting the article incorrectly. They're not saying that global warming isn't happening, they're saying that it's actually going to cause a decrease in the number of hurricanes. And this isn't a dissenting opinion, its actually relatively popular in the meteorological community. Everyone's split pretty evenly between Team Trenberth and Team Landsea.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
gosh harmony, they'll be so confused. just watch them go off on how a border fence would help postpone global warming!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
:rotfl: kris...Good Call!
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Oh man. Yahoos again. :raspberry: Super lame.
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
no no harmony, use random words but make them loaded words that are hot-topic. like epidemic high fructose corn syrup states-rights border fence
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
I agree Kris. What is the harm in taking care of our planet? If nothing else to make our environment better for us. I don't understand why this is such a hot topic.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
Sy if it ends up on Yahoo...this time I'm going to give one word nonsensical kiwi.
stephley stephley 9 years
Gotta see the article first, I'm just as suspicious of the credibility of 'high-level federal scientists' as people are of Al Gore.
JaeB JaeB 9 years
"...high-level federal scientists..." ...Aww, couldn't you find a better source? :P Still, greater severity doesn't sound like fun. Sounds like, who cares whether or not global warming makes more hurricanes, we need to deal with it anyway!
hypnoticmix hypnoticmix 9 years
Hey where are all the yahoo's?
KrisSugar KrisSugar 9 years
:sick: can't we all just for the time being agree that it's a good thing to start paying attention to and protecting the environment? (i'm not arguing with any of you guys, just saying this in general). it makes me sad that it has to be such a polarizing issue. instead it should be a simple accepted notion that taking care of the earth is a good habit.
syako syako 9 years
It's going to end up in yahoo hf, you know it will!!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
OH NO! No citizen! Noooooooooooo! If this ends up on YAHOO... :rant:
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