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Palin Breaks With McCain on Gay Marriage Amendment

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Palin Breaks With McCain on Gay Marriage Amendment Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain who has said he believes states should be left to define what marriage is. The Alaska governor said she had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same sex marriage and hoped to see a federal ban on such unions. "I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said.

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True-Song True-Song 8 years
Dear Sarah Palin, Go fuck yourself. Thanks! ts
haha. Down with marriage! No, I have no issue with unions. I just know that insurance companies are going to have a field day with it, and we'll all pay - - big time. Also, I'm not real concerned about social security. As it is, it will run out the year before I'm eligible to receive it. No big loss to me. Is it sad that I've already accepted that?
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
It was mostly for the non-homophobic nature of the argument she presented :)
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
Even though Choochoo argued against marriage in general? ;)
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Dammit, I'm can only give 100 at a time :rant: CHOOCHOO, you get 500 :)
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Aww, HF :hug:
No homophobia here. :-)
Jillness Jillness 8 years
"I think the key to revitalizing the economy is to legalize gay marriage everywhere. You know there would be the most lavish kick-ass weddings all over the country." So true! And I just have to say that I KNEW the day would come when I would agree with Mich, and it is FINALLY HERE! Yeah!!! :hug: :drinks: Woo!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
I agree pop!
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 8 years
I think the key to revitalizing the economy is to legalize gay marriage everywhere. You know there would be the most lavish kick-ass weddings all over the country. And our economic woes would be forgotten!
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
Jude I love ya. :hug:
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
"Spouses are eligible for insurance benefits, social security survivor benefits, etc, so that means higher costs all around." That would invalidate all the other things people do that cause an increase in insurance rates and etc., such as obesity and smoking. So in order to make sure that no one is doing things that cause others' insurance rates to rise, etc., one would also have to outlaw other reasons for rises in insurance rates, such as smoking and overeating McDonald's Big Macs. I must say, though, that that argument is better than most I've heard, as it isn't rooted in homophobia. If no one else takes the prize, I'll give it to you :)
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
ChooChoo: Well, how about a chance at rebuttal, and then Jude can decide? If the reasons against gay marriage are financial; that more people would be eligible for health and life insurance, thereby raising costs to private insurance industries, and that it would allow more people to become eligible for social security survivorship benefits- couldn't we just argue that we have an incentive to disallow marriage for everyone, or as many people as possible? That would essentially be arguing that marriage itself is a bad thing, and that it would be in our best interest to encourage divorces and a single lifestyle. I don't see that as an argument against gay marriage. In addition, spouses often pay to be added to at least health insurance, and many states and insurance companies are moving in the direction of allowing these financial benefits to same-sex couples in civil unions. I don't think an argument solely against marriage should cut it, but I guess it technically WOULD also be an argument against gay marriage.
I have heard that most arguments are financial: Spouses are eligible for insurance benefits, social security survivor benefits, etc, so that means higher costs all around. The end. Do I get the points now? I'm itchin' for Diamond status. haha
meringue meringue 8 years
I agree that this is usually rooted in religion...I don't think we need to mess with the constitution on this one...but what is wrong with calling one a union and one a marriage?
Jude-C Jude-C 8 years
Yep. Maybe there should be a tomato-throwing emoticon!
geebers geebers 8 years
Harmony - same here.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 8 years
Every time she opens her mouth I want to throw rotten tomatoes at her.
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
*"even if you disagree that gay people SHOULD get married", not "are getting married" lol gosh.
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
Sounds EXACTLY the way my fiancee was about it. I didn't mean to make you feel bad about your fiancee- mine didn't change his mind until we had like, this huge, tear-filled fight about it (over prop 8- he votes in Cali and I don't). And really, it would seem like there are just things you should be able to respectfully disagree on, but at the same time, it is kind of a value to me, respecting other people. And it just made me feel hypocritical that WE are getting married! I think the fight was mostly over prop. 8- even if you personally disagree that gay people are getting married- why would you amend a Constitution to prohibit an activity that won't hurt you. I think that really got to him, even if he is somewhat of a homophobe (grr), he couldn't really justify denying people something that is obviously making them happy and not hurting anyone. I think he is getting more accepting too. Now bizarrely, Sarah Palin claims she isn't a homophobe, has gay friends and STILL wants to amend the US Constitution to ban gay marriage. That is definitely a head-scratcher.
hope2be hope2be 8 years
snow, the funny part about my fiancee is that he's actually totally non-religious, non-traditional, he's more of a liberal but only when it comes to talks about gay marriage, he's turned all traditional/conservative: 'I don't agree with redefining the traditional sense of marriage. It's supposed to be man and woman.' --his words. I argue ALOT with him about this because he's stubborn and can be such a headache but of course he doesn't admit to being a homophobe. He's a weirdo. I do foresee a future problem, better nip this in the bud soon I s'ppose.
kpelli73 kpelli73 8 years
It seems to me that the basis for most of the anti-gay marriage feelings are based in peoples' religious beliefs. It also seems that most of the anti-people are unaware of the idea of separation of church and state. While I would vehemently oppose any measure that tried to force a church to recognize a same sex union, I am equally opposed to people trying to legislate their religious/social beliefs on the entire country. It is the same problem I have with book banning. I can respect that you think witchcraft is evil and you don't want your kids reading about it, but keep your hands off my Harry Potter books in the library.
girlA girlA 8 years
Isn't it important for the Prez and VP to be on the same page with such big issues? If something happened to McCain, is she going to try to overturn anything he does that she doesn't agree with? She also disagrees with McCain on stem cell research...
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
Blue- I actually thought Palin and Biden were technically in agreement (leave it to the states). Biden was more like, "yay gay rights!" about the whole thing, whereas Palin said she was tolerant. I am pretty sure if she hinted that she wanted a federal Constitutional amendment I would have noticed.
snowbunny11 snowbunny11 8 years
Hope2be- my fiancee wasn't exactly anti-gay marriage, but he was kind of ambivalent about it. And then I told him I couldn't handle marrying someone who wouldn't be okay with everyone getting married! I mean, what if someone told US we couldn't get married. :( But he came around after trying to explain to me exactly why he was against it. I mean as far as I can see there are two reasons: you are homophobic, or your God for some reason requires you to be homophobic.
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