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Pro Gay Marriage Ad: The Mormons Are Coming!

California taught East Coast supporters of same-sex marriage a valuable lesson: the Mormon church is a force to be reckoned with. The organized and well-funded church did a good job mobilizing voters in favor of "traditional marriage" to successfully pass Prop. 8. Hoping to mobilize themselves for the battles in other states, one marriage equality group placed ads on newspaper websites warning that "The Mormons are coming! The Mormons are coming!"

The group has been told that its ads were insulting and denigrating to a set of people based on their religion. The founder of the group says he thinks Mormons are the nicest people and that his "single goal is to get them out of the same-sex marriage business and back to helping hurricane victims."

I would imagine that Mormons would get a lot of heat for running ads claiming that the "The gays are coming! The gays are coming!" Should people fighting for marriage rights be more respectful of their opponents, or do they have no obligation to be tolerant of those who want to infringe on their rights?

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SpilledCandy SpilledCandy 8 years
I would ALSO like to point out that neither living wills nor powers of attorney are guarantees that one will be able to see and take care of their loved one in the event of a hospital stay. Hospitals do not always honor those documents; blood ties and legal marriage are about the only relationships they understand. Even heterosexual relationships not bound by marriage can be torn asunder under the same circumstances, because hospitals do not consider a boyfriend or girlfriend to be 'family'. This campaign is in MANY ways similar to the disenfranchisement of an entire race. At one time, blacks could not marry whites. Now we have an entire class of consenting adults forbidden from marrying each other. Blacks demanded equality from the government, how is that any different from gays and lesbians demanding equality? Their only difference is in the gender of their partner. They are tax-paying, law-abiding adults, just as you are, Anon. Remember, anti-miscegenation laws were also deeply rooted in religion, so every point you've made to try and differentiate the civil rights struggle as it relates to race only makes the comparison to the gay rights struggle more and more alike. We are all human, no matter what gods or what other consenting adults are welcome in our bedroom. I'd suggest, Anon, you get used to that, because gays and lesbians, they will never go away. And neither will the fight to secure their well-deserved equality.
Phil Phil 8 years
Yeah, fighting for equal rights is whining. If African Americans didn't "whine," anti-miscegenation laws, Jim Crow laws would still be in place. But, I see your point. If gays would just stop "whining," it would show them that they're just ruffling feathers and that there's really nothing to cry about, right? They should just put their signs down, shut their mouths and go on living because it's the law that they can't get married the way two straight people can. They should also stop being offended for being called a f*g, because that's what they are, right? After all, free-flowing traffic is more important that those homos pretending to be good, normal people, like straight people are, right? Ah, but this is all just an absurd analogy because gay marriage is not the same issue as civil rights. The issue is the definition of marriage, which explicitly states that marriage can only be between a man and a woman. Because words never change. And to say that there's something wrong with the word would be like saying that our language, your language is inherently discriminatory. And that can't be right, can it? hmm.
leeluvfashion leeluvfashion 8 years
Well I guess you would follow the "example set" if your rights have continuously been denied. People are desperate to have their voice heard, especially after the suffering they have dealt with (not only socially by being out-casted but to also be told they cannot be with and/or make any decisions regarding, their dying partner.) How is this equality not worth fighting for? If it takes b*tching and protesting, so be it. Though people could also take to journalism/researching; holding protests OUT of traffic yet still high visibility locations; speak to knowledgeable, non-tabloid media sources with high viewership. Be resourceful.
lickety-split lickety-split 8 years
well if i follow the example set i guess i'd protest, whine, bitch, clog traffic, call names, make absurd analogies. let's see, did i leave anything out?
Meike Meike 8 years
Yes, I'm sure those people who were not permitted to be with their long-time partners on their deathbed (because of their homosexual status) in certain hospitals should just deal with it. I think I would find it hard to live life oppressed like that.
leeluvfashion leeluvfashion 8 years
While not all Mormons may be against gay marriage, it sure seems like a large majority is. As for the "The Mormons are coming" ad, the Mormon groups that went full force in favor of Prop8 asked for the ad; when you attack others, you have to be willing to take a (minor) hit back. I do not see it as targeting ALL Mormons, just the specific members,groups, etc... that are wanting to ban gay marriage. And to those that say "deal with it." How would you feel if your right to marriage was banned and called a sin. I doubt you would just "deal with it." You would want the same right as others. Equality.
lickety-split lickety-split 8 years
the people spoke, prop 8 passed, obama is president. life doesn't always go your way; deal with it.
kurniakasih kurniakasih 8 years
I think that both sides should always be respectful toward each other, that's just me and reality doesn't dictate my ideal world LOL. I hope that the gay community will eventually (soon) have the same privilege and rights as the heterosexual community. I think it is really horrible to be in the position where you have to fight to get legally married.
soapbox soapbox 8 years
I know a handful of Mormons who are pro gay marriage, so I think that in this particular case, the equality group was wrong. Even if they were right, respect should NEVER be tossed out the window IMO.
GlowingMoon GlowingMoon 8 years
I think it's ironic that Mormons support traditional marriage. What the hell do they know about that? Their idea of marriage was once based on polygamy. In fact, there are some groups of Mormons who still practice that. To me, their behavior is NOT about protecting traditional marriage (as it's more about being prejudice towards gays). JMHO.
Chrstne Chrstne 8 years
Not all mormons or christians hate gays. So I can understand why "The mormons are coming!" is sort of inappropriate. However, this is 2009. The church should mind their own damn business. They are fighting to treat the people who they supposedly love (everyone) from having what they want -- from having what everyone has -- rights. If we take away a gays right to be married, what does that say about this country? Are the people of our country really still listening to a bunch of people who have nothing nice to say about anything that goes against what they believe? Of course the church will run ads all for prop 8 -- because they don't want this country full of people who are married under circumstances they don't like. Not even the almighty God himself has come down from the heaven's to say "fu*ck gays!". How about the church learns to BENEFIT people. They do, all the time with charities and such...but they hurt our nation by encouraging foolishness and selfishness. God created all of us, according to churches. So if God created a gay man, how is that a bad thing? If Gd created all of us, then God WANTED there to be gay men? Personally, for me, religion is BS and don't practice it. Even if it matters to someone, why can't they look past their own selfish desires? I am very disappointed in the citizens of California for this. Way to back pedal on something you pushed for. Listening to a damn church. It might as well not be 2009 anymore, because we're acting like a bunch of ass*oles. I am sorry to say I live in the same country as CA right now.
Phil Phil 8 years
Mormons kind of did run an ad shouting "The gays are coming!" Remember NomNom's "Gathering Storm" ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp76ly2_NoI)? "There's a storm gathering."
Steph84 Steph84 8 years
I think the gays do not need to respect anyone that is trying to infringe their rights to live like anyone else. I am really disappointed in California for upholding prop 8. Marriage is a personal choice and I think every person should be allowed to make that choice. Also, here is something funny but right on: 10 reasons we should not have gay marriage (I stole this from my friends facebook page) 1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning. 2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall. 3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. 4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal. 5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed. 6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children. 7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children. 8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America. 9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children. 10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
kia kia 8 years
The Mormon Church based out of Utah really stuck their pocketbooks out for Prop. 8 in California and it is fair to target them now in this manner. I don't hate Mormons. My sister and nieces are Mormon and there are aspects of their community I love. However just like you can dislike a government but like its citizens you can dislike the workings of a church organization and still be fond of its members.
MindayH MindayH 8 years
NPR contributed the fact that Prop 8 passed to African American voters coming out from all over to vote for Obama. The margin was pretty slim. I would imagine if it was on the ballot again, it wouldn't get enough voters to pass it again.
dm8bri dm8bri 8 years
I think it sucks that majority gets to rule on issues like this. I know several Mormons, and they're all for equal marriage rights. When a large religious organization pushes its agenda, it taints every member, fairly or not. They need to back off and let people decide for themselves. As David Hyde Pierce said, it's ludicrous that a bunch of strangers get to make his relationship decisions for him.
Chouette4u Chouette4u 8 years
Ugh, this pisses me off. Obviously, the LDS church poured a ton of money into "Yes on 8", but at the end of the day, Mormons only make up less than 2% of the California population. There are a lot more people and groups who are against gay marriage than just Mormons. AND not every single Mormon is against gay marriage. I wish these groups would realize that targeting LDS is not going to get us any closer to legalizing same-sex marriage. Mormons are not likely to change their minds about this, especially now that they're being so vilified! It's time to focus on the groups that might be more on the fence about this, like more moderate churches and minorities.
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