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Secret Deal to Keep US in Iraq Forever? Why Is the US There?

What do you make of this story? According to the Independent, a secret deal is being negotiated in Baghdad that would extend the US military occupation of Iraq indefinitely, regardless of the outcome of the presidential election.

It's being reported that President Bush is asking for 50 military bases, control of Iraqi airspace below 29,000 feet, legal immunity for all American soldiers and contractors, the right to pursue the "war on terror" in Iraq, and the authority to arrest anybody it wants and to launch military campaigns without consultation. That's quite a list.

Iraqi officials fear the agreement will destabilize Iraq's position in the Middle East and ensure an unending conflict in their country. Though Iraqi ministers have said they will reject any agreement limiting Iraqi sovereignty, political observers in Baghdad think they will relent and sign in the end, only protesting now to establish their credentials as defenders of Iraqi independence by a showing defiance.

Not only impact in Iraq, the secret accord threatens to provoke political tumult in the US. President Bush aims to push it through by the end of next month so he can declare a military victory and claim his 2003 invasion has been vindicated. Any long-term solution in Iraq would undercut pledges by Barack Obama, to withdraw US troops if he is elected president in November, and give a boost to McCain who's pointed to a coming victory in Iraq.

With this news of a possible long-standing presence, I'm actually curious — we've heard lots of reasons for the conflict — why do you think the US is there?


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kris32x kris32x 9 years
why would bush and cheney who own oil stock and companies want to bring more oil to the us?? if you stand to make money off of it, why would you flood the market with oil? you wouldn't. they aren't. i just dont understand the "we went to iraq for oil" argument.
stephley stephley 9 years
Let's say 'how they increased their net worth' - their value suggests quality.
Not so much as them having the oil that the US needs, otherwise, hello, gas prices would not be hitting $4/gallon. When your vice president was the leader of Halliburton prior to his tenure, and your president was making his money off of oil, you think they'll just stop profiting off of it when they hold the most powerful positionsin the world? I think not. It'd be interesting to see how much those two, or their close friends, have increased their value since the beginning of the invasion.
stephley stephley 9 years
"The "Phase II" report states -- in terms clearer than any previous government publication -- that there was no operational relationship between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, that Bush officials were not truthful about the difficulties the United States would face in post-war Iraq and that their public statements did not reflect intelligence they had at the time, and, specifically, that the intelligence community would not confirm any meeting between Iraqi officials and Mohamed Atta -- a claim that was nevertheless publicly repeated." (re: Senate report released Thursday on Administration 'misleading' the U.S. into war)
stephley stephley 9 years
Face it Jill, that's a pretty inconvenient truth!
Jillness Jillness 9 years
"thirty-one Iraqi legislators, representing a majority of the Iraq Parliament, have expressed "widespread disapproval of the proposed U.S.-Iraq security agreement if it does not include a specific timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. military troops." WOW!! Why doesn't the media report more on what is going on in the Iraqi Parliment? Shouldnt that group be a large focus of our plans going forward? How come so few news outlets report on what they have been doing? I don't think I have heard much after the group was formed.
stephley stephley 9 years
The Administration's been signing contractors over there to long term contracts, so somebody expects us to be there for a while. But maybe the Iraqis have different ideas: "In a letter to Congress, dovetailing with yesterday's testimony before the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on International Organizations, Human Rights and Oversight, thirty-one Iraqi legislators, representing a majority of the Iraq Parliament, have expressed "widespread disapproval of the proposed U.S.-Iraq security agreement if it does not include a specific timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. military troops."
popgoestheworld popgoestheworld 9 years
I don't see how this secret deal is possible. But who knows. I've been surprised before. :bunny:
dmpls83 dmpls83 9 years
ok, before reading all the comments, i just can't believe 10% of the people believe the goverment! where have you been the last past years? seriously! :mob:
piper23 piper23 9 years
Yep, those are killer. You've got to have that certain something to be able to pull off those glasses. :)
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
I like the Buddy Holly glasses personally.
piper23 piper23 9 years
I can see how he would. I like Barry's hair too. Permanent parts are my thing. You couldn't tell that by my picture though. I had just gotten out of bed.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
I knew you'd like that Sy. ;)
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Barry has a really hot grandson, or son :ponder: I can't remember which it was. But they were HOT!
syako syako 9 years
there she goes again...
piper23 piper23 9 years
That's way more appropriate. I think "mmmm...drooling emoticon" everytime I see Barry's gap. So we're even.
harmonyfrance harmonyfrance 9 years
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Or I should say, Grrrrrr....
piper23 piper23 9 years
Ok, now I'm being ogled by Barry. I'm going back to the state house. dammit.
jennifer76 jennifer76 9 years
Thanks, Piper! You look very...erm...warm. 8) :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
cine_lover cine_lover 9 years
Jillness Jillness 9 years
Piper, that is HYSTERICAL!!!! :rotfl: The article that I read, said that TENS of THOUSANDS of people were protesting the agreements. They were people loyal to al-Sadr, but they were also Sunni groups, the Association of Muslim Scholars, and the biggest mainstream Shiite party, Abdul-Aziz al Hakim. I think we have to really think about the consequences of staying there long term when the one thing the Iraqi people seem to unite around is us leaving. I think any agreements should be handled very carefully, and I think too many long term plans limit flexibility and response to changing situations.
syako syako 9 years
piper that picture is FREAKING me out :scared: :P
piper23 piper23 9 years
Jennifer, you are too pretty!
piper23 piper23 9 years
I know I'm hot. You should see me when I have my back hair braided. Can't keep them men off of me.
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