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Should Nancy Pelosi Be Voted Out of Congress?

Peace activist and mother of a fallen soldier in Iraq, Cindy Sheehan has filed papers to run against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi this November.

Angered by the fact that Pelosi has not commenced impeachment proceedings, nor moved to swiftly bring home the troops or support a single payer health care system, Sheehan says that Pelosi has ignored the will of her progressive constituency, San Francisco.

Speaker Pelosi’s spokesman countered that Pelosi is working for things that are possible. An impeachment trial, he said, would be “divisive” and prevent Congress from solving other challenges.

But, considering impeachment isn’t Sheehan’s only concern, do you think she is right when saying Pelosi, who has been elected to 10 terms, should be more in touch with her constituency? Do you think Cindy Sheehan has a chance of winning? Should she? Do you consider Sheehan's mission of the last couple of years, a positive one? Do you agree with her?

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stephley stephley 9 years
Thanks Sweetrae.
sweetrae80 sweetrae80 9 years
stephley i agree with you 100%
polygrlsf polygrlsf 9 years
There is no evidence that the current administration LIED about the WMDs. Considering Democrats and Republicans both acknowledged their existence in the past, and the considerable possibility that they were MOVED, is a reality. I am not a fan of the Bush admin, but that doesn't change that fact that before the war was so ridiculously mishandled, both sides were for it. And yes, for multiple reasons. Also, I didn't say Sheehan shouldn't run... she can do what she pleases. After all, we still live in a free country. I did say, however, that she will not win.
sashak sashak 9 years
Miscalculated? WTF was miscalculated? The fact that no WMDs existed? The info about WMDs was not "miscalculated" it was flat out LIED about. And the invasion of Iraq was predicated on way more than WMDs (even info the current administration may have inherited from the previous administration) I don't think that Sheehan will win, but I sure don't fault her for fighting her fight
sashak sashak 9 years
No, I don't think Nancy Pelosi should be voted out of Congress. Nor do I think that Cindy Sheehan should be castigated for her actions. She may well be crazy with grief, but I can't imagine that any mother in her place wouldn't be. The vitriol directed at Ms. Sheehan makes me ill
polygrlsf polygrlsf 9 years
I really enjoyed this lively debate. I have to agree with Lainetm about the Iraq war and the aftermath. Prior to the "invasion", most Democrats took the stance that was dictated by the Clinton administration: that Saddam was a dangerous and ruthless dictator, with ties to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations/terrorist sympathizers. When certain information, used peripherally in the initial decision, was revealed to be miscalculated (WMDs), the reactionary left called for the immediate withdrawal of troops. Good call, kids. Let's leave a poorly trained and prepared country to the wolves of the region. Pelosi, by not supporting the costly and ill-conceived impeachment strategy, was working in the best interest of her constituents. And Sheehan? She doesn't have a fighting chance of winning. Her limited scope and reactionary ideas will not win her any elections.
LibertySugar LibertySugar 9 years
Despite her tactics, I appreciate her reluctance to apathy.
UnDave35 UnDave35 9 years
I think Cindy Sheehan needs professional help. Not because she opposes the war, but because she stood outside the President's estate in Texas for (two weeks?) hoping to talk to Pres Bush. She is not grieving the loss off her child in a safe fashion.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
"the way they go about handling the situation and showing their support goes a long way with me and if they were being radical about their views/opinions I would question their stability as well." i agree Kim
Kimpossible Kimpossible 9 years
oh and by the way I'm not saying that I'm suspicious of your views of her. Your views of her are yours, for whatever reason, I'm not here to judge you for that. I'm just stating my own views, and whether or not anyone is suspicious of my concern for her mental health, is really no concern of mine... I recently heard something about other people's opinions that I really liked... it seems to fit here... your opinion of me is really none of my business. so anyone can think whatever they want of me.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
Stephley: "As long as she's standing for something that you oppose, Sheehan's a troubled woman who's being used. Your concern for her mental health is highly suspect." My sympathy comes from being a mother of a son with a mind to a military career. I believe her activities dishonor her son. I don't think our involvement in Iraq was a good idea--in retrospect. However, I believe it was the best decision we could make at the time, given the information available. Now that we're involved, I believe it would be cruel, selfish and inhumane to cut and run and leave the Iraqis to a civil war which would be orchestrated and encouraged by their neighbors. I guess that's how I differ from the Democrats in Congress.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 9 years
same could be said for her supporters stephly.. as long as she's standing for something you support, your view of her stability is highly suspect. It goes both ways. I get what you're saying and I can't and won't even try to make anyone agree with me, I'm simply stating my opinion and in this particular case, my opinion of her mental state has nothing to do with whether I oppose what she's standing up for or not. But that's just me and even if it were someone who I agreed with their views on something - the way they go about handling the situation and showing their support goes a long way with me and if they were being radical about their views/opinions I would question their stability as well. I go more by a person's behaviors than by their words.
stephley stephley 9 years
As long as she's standing for something that you oppose, Sheehan's a troubled woman who's being used. Your concern for her mental health is highly suspect.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
Jillz, I agree, but as long as she has people with ulterior motives using her as a puppet, she never will.
Jillz1128 Jillz1128 9 years
I'm sorry but Cindy Sheehan needs to cut it out and get professional help.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 9 years
*event not even
Kimpossible Kimpossible 9 years
Many people respond that way because they are emotionally unstable prior to the tragic even in their life - sometimes it's not the event that makes them unstable, rather they already were which is why the reaction is so strong.
stephley stephley 9 years
Cabaker, I know people who have responded that way because they need to believe the death has a meaning. I won't condemn them or insist that they now are unstable.
Cassandra57 Cassandra57 9 years
Oh, this is entertaining. More liberal carnage. If there's not a word which means "self-cannibalism" we really need to invent it. I wish I could vote both "Yes" and "No Way". America *does* need real people, as long as they're qualified, representing us all. Pelosi seems to spend most of her time playing political games and glorying in her self-importance. Sheehan, however...well, I can't say too much bad about her. She's just too pathetic. Something in her just snapped when her son was killed, and there are too many mercenary b@stards out there willing to use her as a pawn. Shameful, really.
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
Steph I doubt you would have the same opinion if instead of swinging so far anti-war, she actually decided the war is absolutely worth it and was acting out in that way.
Kimpossible Kimpossible 9 years
I agree with cabaker (again), but whether or not Sheehan's being used, I don't know and it really doesn't matter.. I personally don't think the woman is emotionally stable and can't possibly see how she could be a benefit to our government, at least not in office anyway. I think she could get some help and then be a benefit at the grass roots level, but she seriously needs to deal with her emotional health first.
stephley stephley 9 years
I'm sure the Bradys would be deeply chagrined to learn you disapprove of their site. Having seen first hand what the death of a loved one in combat can do to at least two generations of the surviving family, I don't think she is "unreasonably" consumed. Camping outside the President's home brought world attention - not unreasonable if you're serious about your cause. Having fantasies of suicide or acts of revenge - not unreasonable, and not unusual, in the immediate weeks and even months after the death. There are studies that indicate a child's death can strain marital relationships - Sheehan's husband filed for divorce slightly more than a year after Casey's death. Does that mean it's all her fault? Do you know the family well enough to judge? She's not being a good military mom, hanging a Gold Star in her window quietly (you realize of course, that the Gold Star Mothers were started by a woman grieving for her child).
hausfrau hausfrau 9 years
1) The Brady campaign is not against gun violence. Its against all guns 100% and their site is FILLED with lies to support their position. 2) MADD is a great organization. No one is saying she shouldn't be angry or choose to support the causes she does. But I don't see how you could seriously argue that she isn't being used or unreasonably consumed by her son's death. Camping outside of the Presidents home for weeks on end is not reasonable. Having fantasies of suicide or acts of revenge on the President is not reasonable. Pushing away your family until your husband of 28 years divorces you is not reasonable.
stephley stephley 9 years
Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy ran for office after her husband was murdered and her son wounded by a gunman on a commuter train in NY; Jim Brady and his wife launched the Brady Campaign against gun violence after he was wounded in the Reagan assassination attempt; Mothers Against Drunk Drivers is a virtual army of grieving parents. Sheehan's not a nut job being used, or unreasonably consumed by her son's death. Running for office as an anti-war candidate is a perfectly reasonable way for a woman who doesn't want other lives wasted by war to respond to her pain.
samantha999 samantha999 9 years
Should Nancy be voted out - YES! She promised a transparent government- still waiting. But Sheehan is not the one to do it. She is need of a really good shrink to help her get on with her life. Is there no one else in SF who can run?
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