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Video of Nadya Suleman Arguing With Her Mother

What Would You Do With Your Frozen Embryos?

The story of Nadya Suleman and her octuplets is all over the news these days. As I'm sure you've heard, Nadya, who was unable to conceive naturally, turned to fertility treatment and got whole lot more than she bargained for.

Her eggs were removed from her ovaries and fertilized with sperm donated from her friend, and whether it was right or wrong, she had all six embryos transferred into her uterus (two split, and that's how she ended up with eight babies). In an effort to defend her decision to plant all six, she recently argued with her mother saying, "The only thing you can do with frozen embryos is use them or destroy them." Nadya considered those frozen embryos to be lives, and felt that destroying them would be just like having an abortion. To that, her mother responded with, "The other option is, give them up for adoption."

I know this is an emotional and heated topic of discussion, but since we talk about things like pregnancy and abortion on DearSugar all the time, I thought you'd all have something to say about this too. So tell me, if you went through fertility treatments, what would you choose to do with your frozen embryos?

And if you're interested in seeing the video clip of Nadya and her mother posted on,



smartiez smartiez 8 years
This woman is unbelievable."Accept and let go" she says. She had 8 children for pete's sake! Add that to another 6 and what do you get? Late mortgage payment spent on in vitro. She also had a VERY confused look when her mom said she could give them up for adoption. She's never heard of adoption, of course, because otherwise she probably could have saved every single child from every freakin' orphanage by now. Why couldn't she adopt children anyway? Oh that's right, because she is selfish. She would never want to give away her own embryos to couples that really needed them, so why would she adopt her children? Obviously she thinks her judgment is superior to that of her mom's, when it clearly is not.
Janine22 Janine22 8 years
I just wanted to respond to lola_k's comment by saying that an embryo is a fertilized egg. It is the beginning of life in just the same way that an early pregnancy would be. Personally I am pro choice. But if I got IVF I would not feel comfortable destroying embryo's. I would probably carry and raise all of the children (although, of course not 6 at once, that is risking the health of the children). I wouldn't want more than 3 kids anyways, so I would hope that they would freeze a limited amount in the first place.
lolak lolak 8 years
IT'S NOT AN ABORTION!!!!!!!!!! IS HAVING YOUR PERIOD AN ABORTION? NO!!!!!!!!!! if you had a baby for every egg you had, your legs would never close! this a stupid reason. This chick needs psychiatric help. Where does she get off talking to her mo that way? her mom should be off retiring and enjoying the life that instead is being sucked out of her by this airhead and her 50 children. Now they're losing the house because her mom is using all her money to feed the world?! this woman makes me so mad!!!! her lack of consideration, of money of sence! "I have to accept the help that's been offered"?!!I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.
margokhal margokhal 8 years
I don't know if I would have eggs taken out to begin with. If I did, they would have to be for *immediate* use, either by me using IVF or donated to a couple that's having trouble conceiving. I wouldn't just let them sit frozen for so long, but that's a personal preference. I understand what the moral dilemma is that Nadya was concerned about...but she still should have never been allowed to have that many kids using IVF!
Murmur314 Murmur314 8 years
Prople like Ms. Suleman make me wish there were regulations for having kids. She's obviously not the brightest star in the sky and while smart people are too preoccupied to conceive, dumb people like her breed the heck out of this planet. This planet can very well do without her and her poor kids. Oprah however can't as it's the perfect story to create polarized discussions with and attract viewers. Business as usual for the media, sadly.
Beaner Beaner 8 years
Nadya is so mean to her mother. That video is too much!
Rebecca14916991 Rebecca14916991 8 years
If I ever considered doing IVF, I would only implant 2, and then adopt the rest out, hopefully to family or people I know. I'm with dm8bri though - I'm not sure I would do it at all, and if I couldn't get one the old fashioned way, I would prefer to adopt and be sure that a young already existing child got a great home than have to worry about what to do with frozen embryos.
luckychick1 luckychick1 8 years
This is something that I've been thinking about a lot lately, as my husband and I are seriously considering IVF. We would love to adopt a child as well, but for me the desire to have a child that is mine and my husband's is too strong for me to not give it a try. I have a wonderful doctor who would only be willing to implant 2 embryos, which is all I want anyway. I would probably want to keep 1 or 2 in case I wanted more children someday. And any embryos I don't end up using I would donate to couples who can't create their own. At first I thought it would be strange to have kids that were technically mine walking around, but the more I thought about it the more I realized it wouldn't be that big of a deal. It's not like I would know who they went to or where they lived, etc. And I feel good about that decision. Now if I could just figure out how to come up with the $10,000 + we need to get it done :(.
dm8bri dm8bri 8 years
I would NEVER implant more than 2 - IF this was something I was ever inclined to do, which it is not. If I couldn't conceive naturally, I would greatly prefer to adopt. However, I don't even know if I want kids at all.
aka-Daria aka-Daria 8 years
I would donate them to stem-cell research or a couple who wanted to have kids and couldn't.
sparklestar sparklestar 8 years
The question is... would I even do this to begin with? I would LOVE to have natural children but you know what? There are SO many kids on the adoption register and SO MANY children who are being taken away from "unsuitable" mothers every single day... I would adopt a baby. Or you know... live without having kids. My aunt and uncle never had kids and they now live in Greece in a custom built home overlooking the sea !!
laughing808 laughing808 8 years
I'd donate the unused embryos to a couple in need.
Squeaks26 Squeaks26 8 years
Every child she had was implanted and all by the same doctor and same donor. She had four kids and then when she got her fifth implanting she got twins. They say now she has 14 kids under the age of 8, I think. The doctor who did this is now being investigated by the medical board in California. He should go to jail and she should go in a nut house and her kids should be adopted out. I'm not even sure how she could get this done so many times. I thought it was $20,000 each time. Also they said yesterday on Oprah, by law, or best practices she should have only had two embryos implanted because of her age range. Considering she already had six children she shouldn't have been allowed to have any more, let alone have six implanted.
ThePerfectScore ThePerfectScore 8 years
I feel like all of this is playing with God and nature...Its risky business to tamper with the natural process of life. Sure most ppl want children who are genetically related to them and/ or go through the process of pregnancy, but I think if the old fashion way doesn't work I will just adopt.
mydiadem mydiadem 8 years
I don't know how I feel about IVF personally, morally I don't know if I would be OK with it period. But its hard to say, as I haven't tried to have children yet and don't know how fertile I am. If I did change my mind, I wouldn't just want them destroyed though. I would either adopt them out (I have a work colleague that had a daughter from an adopted embryo) or donate them to stem cell research so they can go to some good use.
Beaner Beaner 8 years
I have a friend who was going through chemo because of breast cancer. Sse's only 31, so her Dr recommended she have eggs removed and then fertilized by her fiance, so that in case she can't conceive later, they'll still be able to have children. They took 30 eggs from her ovaries, and after being fertilized, only 5 survived. So they're frozen and waiting for her if she needs them. She says she wouldn't want to have all 5 children, so whichever ones she doesn't need, she's donating to a couple who needs them. She's adopted so she feels really strongly about an embryo being considered life, and if I were in her position, I'd donate the extras as well.
Ac2366 Ac2366 8 years
Being implanted with 6 eggs is too many, period. I think 3 tops but more realistically only 2 should be implanted at a time. I would have destroyed the others at the embryo stage rather than have to consider selective reduction later on. I admit I would not be able to handle giving birth to a litter of children and then caring for them. The woman is not even married and lives with her mother in a home that is ready to go to auction because the mortgage payments are behind by over $20,000. This woman disgusts me and I really think she was looking for attention and money. I wish I could designate that my tax dollars do NOT go to support her and her foolishness.
Chrstne Chrstne 8 years
I mean, when you are implanted with eggs during fertility treatment, it's not unusual to have more than one, because the odds of you getting that one "perfect" egg are unlikely. It's usually not 6, but still in all, even with just two, things can happen and you can end up with more than you bargained for as well. It's her decision, but I think she really wanted the attention that she sees the Gosselins and the Duggars getting for their big families...and all of those other families who were all supported after having 6,7,8 kids.
bbkf bbkf 8 years
I would have the other frozen embryos destroyed. I do not consider this to be abortion, although I am pro-choice, so it is not a moral dilemma to me.
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