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What's Your Take on "Housewife Classes"?

What's Your Take on "Housewife Classes"?

I just read an article in the LA Times that struck a nerve with me, and I have a feeling you will all agree. This Fall, the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary will be offering a class on how to be a better housewife — a class only open to women, of course! This academic program will offer lectures on laundering stubborn stains and how to bake chocolate-chip cookies.

While some women feel it's their duty to be a homemaker, such classes went out of style at most secular colleges a half century ago, which could be why only eight out of the 300 students in the undergraduate program have enrolled in this class. On the flip side, it's comforting to know that some men out there are speaking up, suggesting that it's actually the men that need these classes. As Andy Cecrle stated, "What if my wife is sick and my kids need clean clothes? It may not hurt to have some basic tips." Amen Andy!

I am sure you ladies have a mouthful to say in response to all of this, so what's your take on housewife classes? If you were offered these classes in school, would you take them or would you be offended? And if you could make a class such as this mandatory for men, do you think they would benefit from it?

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jessijennings jessijennings 9 years
• I think a class like this would be very helpful especially if it went into proper menu ideas grocery budgeting and so on. Since becoming a military wife I have often pulled out my hair trying to vacume up dish and launder all before he gets home and websites like flylady and so on have been my only help. I think especially now it is helpful to know just what on earth would get that raspberry stain out of our stupid military carpet or how does one really shine all that bathroom stuff from the 50’s and for the love of god! How do I clean the tile in the bathroom so it doesn’t look like someone died in there! I know its rust I know it’s coming up though the floor and everyones looks that way but I’m fairly sure that shoving baking soda past into the cracks is really not the way to have a white bathroom floor… Also didn’t you say it’s a Baptist college? Wouldn’t that mean that a wife’s place is as submissive to her husband under god’s law and in accordance with the word?
rosaj rosaj 9 years
That is way so messed up I have a freezer cook it Himself!!!! I cook when I want to and if he doesnt like it go to J**KS and get a hamburger and while he's there pick me up a salad please.
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 9 years
I think the classes are a good idea, but they should let men take them too.
melda melda 9 years
no i don't need that classes
girlie871 girlie871 9 years
I would sign up for the class but not to become a "domestic housewife". Ive been living on my own for a while now and I just recently learned some vital laundry tips from my boyfriend (meanwhile I taught him how to make some tasty chilaquilles). I think that both men and women could benefit from classes like these, hopefully they will realize that and open up the classes to everyone.
allien86 allien86 9 years
I have to admit its a little offensive on its gender basis. But if it would help me learn skills to better myself and my future family I dont see why not. However should be available to both men and women and not mandatory for either sex.
demeter demeter 9 years
I would sign up! I love being domestic, and I want to be a housewife someday ♥
kendalheart kendalheart 9 years
Hell no...when is it that women are going to actually take being OUTSIDE of the house just as serious?? If one chooses to be a housewife, that is their deal but I hate this idea. NOT for me!!
BRANDYNICOLE730 BRANDYNICOLE730 9 years
What about the men who see it as their lifework to stay at home and be a father to their children, so that their children do not have to deal with absent parents, as they did? How come it is only acceptable to be a stay at home mom, when there are more women in careers than ever before? I do not clean, period. Cooking responsibilities are always shared, because we enjoy it, but homemaking? I'm definately not the one to do it. I heard this particular story a couple of months ago. And, I personally would not take ANY courses at a university that finds it inappropriate for men to be taught by women. Did they not just recently fire a female professor due to that very thing? We had HomeEc and Nutrition and Food Science in my High School, of which I took advantage of along with my 2 years of Culinary Arts, but (gasp) men were allowed to take the classes as well.
blondewithbangs blondewithbangs 9 years
sign me up! i want to learn how to make yummy cookies and get stains out. Maybe it should be called "basic home skills" and be open to ALL people. It sounds practical though!
ducks ducks 9 years
Poor housewives! Everyone thinks they're less than zero. Chin up, little homemakers. I wish I had a handy-capable wife of my own. I'd respect you.
kurniakasih kurniakasih 9 years
I don't find it offensive, as long as it's not mandatory, and sure, I'd love it if my husband passed that class!! :D
Eternity Eternity 9 years
Sign me up please. I would love to quit my job and spend my time cooking, gardening, and lounging. A woman does not have to bring home $$ or have a stale meaningless corporate career to be empowered. We can do it in much more subversive ways :)
fashionhore fashionhore 9 years
It's not an offensive class, but the name could be changed to something more gender neutral like Home Economics. Women have the right to chose to be in the class which is why only 8 out of 300 undergrads signed up for it. I will say though that I feel those 8 are in it for the easy A and three credits toward graduation. There should be more classes like this for men if they are going to be keeping on for women.
tati33 tati33 9 years
No thanks..
looseseal looseseal 9 years
I'm all for free choice as long as it's not hurting anybody, but I'm not sure how much of a free choice someone has if they're indoctrinated from birth to pretty much be slaves and incubators. In order to choose, you have to be aware of something different from what you're doing, and I'm not sure that's the case with some fundamentalist religious groups. I like tips about how to do household things better, but that's what the internet is for, not a four-year degree. Like someone said before, technical skills is not the point of the degree anyway. It's more about learning how to be a "Godly housewife", whatever that means.
Designgirl Designgirl 9 years
I completely disagree with the focus of this course/degree. This seminary is near my hometown (Dallas-the school is in Ft. Worth), and I was raised Southern Baptist. The man who took over as president has slowly been trying to make the school more conservative and fundamentalist than most Baptists would ever care to be (and what the school already was to begin with). From what I understand, he has even tried to change the rules so that women cannot take certain classes (like pastoral classes), and that they would all be required to wear dresses/skirts when on campus. I think basically, he's slowly trying to phase women out of the school. His name is Paige Patterson, should you want to look him up. It's a shame that the perception people have of Baptists is one of close-mindedness, and backwards thinking, but unfortunately, most of the public leaders in this denomination express those sorts of views (and honestly, a lot of Baptists live up to them). Please keep in mind-not all are like that-just the incredibly vocal ones! lol I agree that learning certain aspects of maintaining a household are useful to know, but I agree with what a lot of you said about opening the class up to men as well. It's refreshing to know that there were some male students there who recognized that need, and spoke up about it. We ALL need help in maintaining a home-it's a huge responsibility!
Murple Murple 9 years
Yuck. If it was about more than just the housewife stuff I might consider a class or two, but not a whole degree. It would be really useful if it taught things like repairing a dishwasher, plumbing, auto care and maintenance, painting, writing, budgeting and just about everything it takes to run a house. There's more to being a housewife than cooking and laundry. If/when I am ever a stay-at-home wife I want to know how to build things, fix things, and write.
PJ-PJ-PJ PJ-PJ-PJ 9 years
Remedios, I'm with you on the auto class. I hate having to depend on my husband for that type of stuff! All I know how to do is check the dip-stick oil thing!
PJ-PJ-PJ PJ-PJ-PJ 9 years
"Now, would their particular Biblical teaching apply to my own Catholic beliefs? Doubtful. But that doesn't make it offensive in general." Greggie, That made me giggle. My husband is Catholic & I am not. We were trying to find a church home that sort of met in the middle. Our close friends were going to a big Southern Baptist church, so we tried it out for a while. About the third weekend in, my husband went to one of their "men-only" seminars. He came home & said that they stressed the man being the boss (leader) & the wife is the follower. We kept going, knowing that we didn't have to agree with everything, but there were so many other things that kept us from staying, one being a scathing sermon on the Catholic religion. I was more angry than my husband was. Needless to say, we knew then that that wasn't the church home for us & we haven't been back there since. I read the article. It brings back memories, especially the "Biblical Model for the Home and Family" teach that God expects wives to graciously submit to their husbands' leadership." line. My grandmother was Southern Baptist. Once, I asked her why she never entertained thoughts of a boyfriend or husband after my grandfather died (in his 50's). She said, "Now, why would I want to have to look after another baby?" (She also had five children, which she made sure to teach how to clean, cook, & pick up after themselves. One of them was my father, thank God.) She was a smart lady. My other grandmother lived the same life, with a husband & nine kids. She said she just wanted to outlive my grandfather by one day! Unfortunately, she did not. Popgoestheworld, I completely agree with your statement, "It's always amazing to see perspectives on life that are so far different from my own. It's cool that they are allowed to do their thing and I'm allowed to do mine." It's unfortunate that their class is not open to men, but that is just not their way. Fortunately, my mother taught me how to be self sufficient in the sewing, cleaning, & cooking departments, so I don't need this "degree". I would totally like to send my husband, though. His most ridiculous statement, to get out of housework once, was "I don't know how to mop." Yes, I promptly taught him how to mop! Jeesh, my post got really long! Oh well!
sciencegirl sciencegirl 9 years
i wouldn't mind taking one of those classes. i'm in my 30s and have been living by myself for over 10 years and i still don't know how to take care of myself. in fact, the only food items have in my house are: milk, coffee, cereal and snacks. i do know how to wash my clothes and dishes, i just usually can't be bothered to cook. it is kind of stupid that it's not open to men. i'm sure there are tons of guys out there living by themselves in pretty much the same state, and they could benefit from these classes too.
remedios remedios 9 years
Depends on what the class really means and how it's marketed. But as it appears from what's stated, I just laugh at the lunacy. Religious fruitcakes are amusing if not consistent. But in general, if it wasn't marketed as such a nutty class like it is here, I think it could be fun to take a "learn to be Martha Stewart" type class. ClassicsDiva also mentioned an auto class - I definitely need to take that class as well, to learn the basics about a car.
mirawilliams mirawilliams 9 years
I had to take either art, home ec or cooking in high school and that was in the '80s. I ended up taking cooking from age 12-15 and looking back, I'm really glad I did. I can cook and am not afraid to experiment with food. That means I can make healthy (sometimes!) food at home and not have to eat out or order in all the time. However, open it up to men as well. Unless they're getting married straight out of school, they have to fend for themselves as well. Plus they should learn what it takes to actually cook meals seven days a week.
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