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Bars Ban Strollers

Stroller Ban in Brooklyn

Do babies belong in bars? A recent article in the New York Times discussed the hot topic.

The Union Hall bar in Brooklyn put a ban on strollers, setting off a firestorm from angry motherly patrons. To learn more about the ban,

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As a mom, I was slightly offended when I first glanced at the article. But as I read on, I tried to put myself in the position of the baby-less folk. At times mamas are given special treatment — doors are opened for our strollers, we are invited to skip bathroom lines, and allowed to board airplanes first — so why not let bar hoppers have drinking holes to themselves?

Well, if it's early and the bar is empty, mothers might want to sit down and throw back a brewsky or chardonnay while the kids snack on bar nibbles and scribble with crayons.

Since New York, Los Angeles, and other major metropolitan cities have banned smoking, it makes sense that more parents would feel comfortable bringing their children along for a pint. It seems reasonable to me that a ban could and probably should be implemented after certain hours, say 8 p.m., but until then I think mums and tots should be allowed to come and go.

What do you think of Brooklyn's ban?

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Advah Advah 9 years
Strollers are the most annoying thing in the world to me. 99% of the people with strollers just think it's fine for them to take up all the place on the pavement, or just run into you because *you* should be the one going out of their way with your 4 bags of grocery. Argh! I don't mind having kids in restaurants or bar, but on practical point of view I completely understand you don't want 8 strollers in your way when in a busy place.
minaminamina minaminamina 9 years
As a former server, I applaud this decision - I wish they would ban kids from bars, too. Not that I have anything against kids, but it is DANGEROUS to have children running around restaurants and bars, and while many parents prevent this, a LOT do not make an effort to control their children, and don't appreciate servers telling them to keep their brats under control. Strollers are a safety hazard for servers also - as well as a fire hazard in a smaller establishment. I agree with this decision. Have you seen the strollers women have now!?? They're HUGE!
kmckay kmckay 9 years
also a former park-sloper, this (and pet's comment)made me laugh. you can't walk a block without bumping into a stroller! don't even get me started on trying to navigate through a starbucks!!! i saw parents in bars with strollers because the kid was asleep and apparently this is responsible parenting. their own decision, of course but that doesn't mean the rest of us should have to put up with no seats or aisles to walk through because of the strollers! and yes, sweet home alabama.... you have a baby... in a BAR?!?!?!
Dana18 Dana18 9 years
IT is total unacceptable to bring a child to a bar . when people are drink you never know what would happen.
abqmama abqmama 9 years
I don't understand why anyone would be taking their children to a bar anyway. It is completely inappropriate to have your children in that environment. Also, I would never drink in front of my kids or when they are in my care. If I want to go out and drink, I find a babysitter.
luckyme luckyme 9 years
Thank you for the clarification Pet. I also wanted to point out that I don't think I go to the bars that are being discussed. I live in suburban Denver, so most of our bars are restaurants (Rock Bottom, Bar Louie, Lucky Strike, etc.). So yes, we do take our baby with us, and we even have a beer when we're there. We rarely go out for the night life downtown. When and if we do, I will not take my child. I would also like to point out that never will I ever be the type of parent that just lets their kid(s) run wild. That is rude and disrespectful no matter where you are.
asco00 asco00 9 years
Strollers are big and bulky. I have 3 kids and I have always tried not to take strollers into restaurants.
Pets Pets 9 years
Ahh, Park Slope. I've been to this bar (and several other area establishments) and my concerns come not just from the baby-in-the-bar-after-bedtime situation but because, as drinks flow, often times parents' attention is diverted from their kids... and if those kids can walk, chances are their little hands and toes can be in danger. I've witnessed (in tight bar situations), more than a few altercations if someone jostles, or tries to move, an empty Bugaboo. The stroller situation in that neighborhood is different from any other place I have ever lived – my friends with kids there actually use their empty strollers on general walks around town to carry groceries, library books, essentially anything they could put in a purse (while the kids are at home, mind you). Many times, I would joke to them that I felt out of place walking down 5th or 7th without a stroller!
Dbtabm Dbtabm 9 years
Why on earth are you taking your baby into a bar in the first place? Is this a bar bar or more of a restaurant? If it's a bar it makes perfect sense that there shouldn't be children inside period. There's probably also some insurance concerns with drunk patrons tripping and falling over strollers.
sweetnshy5282 sweetnshy5282 9 years
I think it is perfectly fine to ban strollers in a small bar. on another note...what are parents doing at a bar w/ their young children?! families can go and eat at a family restaurant. they do not need to go to a bar where non-children doting adults go to relax and unwind after a long day (or week). if moms and dads wanna go and get a drink, then they should get a babysitter first!
lickety-split lickety-split 9 years
i predict this will be short lived. moms will leave the strollers outside and their little darlings will be running free in the restaurant. i give it 6 weeks, lol.
JessNess JessNess 9 years
Bringing babies into bars is ridiculous. Strollers for one are a total fire hazard in a cramped space like a bar. Plus all the noise cannot be good for the ears. Plus drinking parents + strollers is not a good mixture. Ive been to sport bars as a kid but the rule but all kids had to leave by 6pm and if there was a big game on then kids couldnt be in there at all. I hated the bar so I had no problem leaving
PJ-PJ-PJ PJ-PJ-PJ 9 years
Who brings a baby to a bar? And even worse, who breast feeds their child at the bar, while ordering a martini (see the article)?!! See, if I go to a bar, it's to get away from children---even at lunch time.
katedavis katedavis 9 years
luckyme- I think the difference between having a baby in a bar and at a sporting event is not the effect of the locale on the baby but the effect of the baby on the other people there. Adults go to a bar to unwind and be in a mature environment (no teenagers, no need to worry about your language...) and the presence of a baby/toddler is more likely to disrupt that than the child being at a sports event where everyone is watching a game.
karisaamy karisaamy 9 years
Ummmm...why would you bring your child to a bar, you have to be 21 to go into a bar, it doesn't matter if you are drinking or not.
Marci Marci 9 years
Personally, I don't think kids belong in bars. If banning the strollers keeps them out, then so be it. Kids are 'monkey see, monkey do'. If they learn about going to bars and drinking from their parents, it's kind of a given they'll continue that pattern.
carak carak 9 years
there's nothing more annoying than someone else's kid having a fit when you're trying to eat and enjoy yourself. my parent's didn't take me and my sisters out to eat until we were old enough to behave ourselves. banning strollers in bars makes perfect sense. and to be honest, i don't see why this is a big deal. i don't think you should be drinking while you're caring for your child in the first place. it's completely irresponsible!
isahrangme isahrangme 9 years
Well SugarKat, maybe you should post your source then, cuz the source that babysugar posted didn't say anything about it not being her kid or having other people in the car. Are they only banning strollers? I feel like it's implied that they're banning children, but I have no idea
kia kia 9 years
Anyone else thinking about Sweet Home Alabama? "You have a baby, in a bar."
macneil macneil 9 years
I am always complaining about how restrictive life is with a stroller, but agree wholeheartedly with the comment above that says we need to remember what life was like before we had our ohsoadorabletoUS babies. We would have thought a bar was a safe place to get away from little kids and would have been a lot less fun with them there. I've taken my stroller to the beer garden of pubs last summer, and there's something about the sunny outdoors that made it seem less antisocial, but I'm having second thoughts about that now.
mrtruman mrtruman 9 years
I'm confused! Is this place a bar or a restaurant with a bar area? If it's a traditional bar, why on earth would moms go with their babies?
jennifer76 jennifer76 9 years
As others have said, strollers take up a lot of room! I bet a lot of bars in Brooklyn are pretty small. Besides, I could even understand if they said no kids. I have kids and even *I* like to sometimes have a quiet, totally adult environment. Before my husband deployed, we went out to a really nice dinner just the two of us. It was kind of annoying to pay over $100 for the two of us, try to have a nice romantic evening and there was a two year old who was tired (ours were already in bed asleep!) screaming and crying at her table, a three year old running around the restaurant and a mostly quiet but quite messy and distracting 10 month old (or so) at the next table over. If an establishment wants to say, hey we don't want that environment in our bar/restaurant/whatever, then more power to them. It is their business to run as they see fit.
Liss1 Liss1 9 years
strollers take up a lot of room i am sure that is part of it. Plus babies shouldn't be in bars anyways.
fsquaash fsquaash 9 years
I love my kids and I love going to bars with friends. However, moms and dads need to remember what it was like before kids. Non-parents don't want to go to bars with toddlers present. Why not take the kids to a deli or other lunch spot? Certainly, that would be more fun for the kids.
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