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Are Firearms Family Friendly?

Loaded weapons and lil ones don't mix in my opinion. I hope my daughter and son never wrap their hands around a gun. Not now or ever. Growing up in San Francisco in the 80s, it wasn't all too unusual to see a gun cabinet at a friend's house or hear a rumor that their father had a gun. My own dad took me target shooting when I was ten. But, times have changed and I'm not keen on my children attending a playdate in a home that had firearms. Why? Because accidents happen and not all people take the proper precautions in storing weapons and as a result, kids die.

We told you about the four-year-old that shot herself when she pulled her grandma's loaded gun from her purse in Sam's Club and a father who forced his six-year-old daughter to pose with a pistol. Yesterday, news reports said a child was shot when her drunk father cleaned his firearms. Though the headlines are few and far between, every fatality is worrisome. Are you a gun free family?

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Kaizykat Kaizykat 8 years
My dad worked around the police force for several years (He wasn't an officer because he's blind in one eye, but was the president of MADD for the county that I live in) and he keeps a police issued gun in the house. He is the only one that can handle it. We live in an 'okay' neighborhood, but there have been several stabbings and one homicide in the last 15 years. If anyone comes onto our property at night my dad gets the gun out. He's never fired it before, but it seriously deters people. I honestly feel a lot safer when he does that because I know that if anything were to happen that there would a lesser chance of my family getting hurt (Did I mention that he took police courses on shooting?). I didn't know we owned a gun until I was about 7 or 8 because my dad made sure that he kept it locked in a place that I couldn't get to. He still keeps it unloaded with the trigger locked. When I finally move out of the house, I will most likely buy my own gun. I would rather have the firearm be there in case I needed it instead of having someone break into the house and kill me before I can kill them (Because that's what it comes down to when you're attempting to defend yourself). If I ever have children, I will keep it locked somewhere that they will never be able to get into. I am no fool.
RenSis RenSis 8 years
A little less than a year ago I was robbed at gun point at my job. I was completely unable to control how the man that robbed me was going to use that gun! I've never been in a situation before where I had absolutely no control over my being. Therefore; I hate guns! I think they are violent regardless of how they are used. I believe that they should have never been created, and I will never own one …EVER, however; my brother loves to hunt, I have many friends that own guns responsibly, and my mother (whom is my closest friend) even has a small hand gun. I would never tell my mom, brother, or friends that my child wasn't allowed at their house because they owned guns. I trust my friends and family to keep an eye on my daughter while she's at their home and if I ever felt like they weren't then that's why she wouldn't be there. I wouldn't entrust my daughter to people that wouldn't be just as safe with her as I would be. What keeps her from stabbing herself with my large kitchen knives? Proper storage and an attentive mom!
lildorothyparker lildorothyparker 8 years
I don't have any use for guns, but if someone else wants to own one that's his or her prerogative. I live in Canada though, and aside from hunting, the idea of the "right to bare arms" isn't as pervasive as it is in the States... and according to Michael Moore we all leave our doors unlocked so we Canadians are all trusting (not true by the way... about the doors at least).
rocketgirl rocketgirl 8 years
I grew up in a house with guns and learned from an early age not to play with them and was instructed in what to do if a friend showed me a gun (say no, don't touch it, call Mom). When treated properly, I think guns are a great form of recreation and just as safe as other sports.
foxie foxie 8 years
"Still with that, if someone sneaks into your house and into your bedroom undetected" They don't have to make it into your bedroom for you to need/need to retrieve a gun. Thanks for sharing about the case though, I certainly am pretty unaware of the different cases there are available.
macgirl macgirl 8 years
I think some are not realizing there are other cases besides ones that have locks with actual keys. The ex had a gun case that had like 6 little black nobs and you had to push in 5 in a certain sequence to open it. It could be done in the dark. The gun was kept in this case loaded. Still with that, if someone sneaks into your house and into your bedroom undetected you won't have time to retrieve that gun for protection. Not to say there wouldn't be other times that the protection would be needed. That said, with my current husband we don't have a gun and probably won't. I just feel that the chances of me needing that gun is slim, and the chances of me needing it and being able to access it when needed are even slimmer. I am just going to pass. I've got the baseball bat and if that's not enough then it wasn't meant to be.
foxie foxie 8 years
It's only lame if you can't comprehend other solutions besides two separate locking cases outside of the bedroom. The first thing that comes to my mind is a small locking case for the gun, with the key and the ammo being stored in drawers too tall for children to reach. It would take minimal time to ready while still putting safety at the forefront. Naturally, this is just one example. People who actually own guns probably know plenty of other handy solutions. I'm sure if you could think of a few others yourself if you actually gave it some thought rather than just frantically explaining and re-explaining how long it takes you to unlock something.
skigurl skigurl 8 years
oh, and another thing...in order to actually be able to unlock and load, the case would have to be wherever you were - so not in the basement for example. it would have to be near the bedrooms, if you would agree most home invasions happening while people were home would happen during the sleeping hours, therefore you'd be in your bedroom. i agree, many home invasions do happen during the day but most of the time people aren't home at that time, making it a moot point.
skigurl skigurl 8 years
foxie, i'm not sure if leene agrees with me, but your answer to our question was pretty lame, to be honest. as i said, it would take quite a bit of time to unlock a properly locked gun in a locked case and then also unlock the ammo and load the gun...by the time you knew you were being invaded, there wouldn't be time for that. i don't need more of an answer, but i don't think your point is really very valid. in order to protect your family and "take a human life" like kate said (well said), it would have to be loaded, and therefore create an unsafe environment for children.
runningesq runningesq 8 years
Going back to the original topic ... ;) I don't own a gun, but my dad owns several. I didn't even KNOW where they were when I was younger (locked in the basement) and he goes target and clay duck shooting. It's not my thing but - like Greggie said - if someone is a responsible gun owner and keeps their guns unloaded and locked, I think it's fine.
Greggie Greggie 8 years
That again goes back to storing properly - if you've ever tried to break the lock on a properly stored gun, it's virtually impossible. It's like a firesafe, you can't just break it open. There are improperly stored guns and cases, and those wouldn't fit into my category of being ok with it around, properly stored.
katedavis katedavis 8 years
I am very opposed to having a gun in my home. I live in NY and do not hunt and so in my mind a gun has one purpose only- to take a human life. I think the odds of an armed robber breaking into my home are minuscule at best, and would not want such a weapon in my home. That being said my dad had a rifle when I was growing up (and I assume still does). I remember seeing the case only a couple of times and went with him to the shooting range once. I have no idea where he keeps the ammo and have never seen the gun out of the case in my home. However, a few years back there was someone who would enter the back yards on my parents block at night (I'm not sure if he was breaking into houses), and I know that my dad kept the gun by his bed at night until the man was caught. He would wait until we were asleep and then take the gun out of its storage place (I have no clue where he keeps it). I understand wanting protection, but I still would not want a weapon in my home. Also, this conversation has focused on babies- what about teens? I think teens who want to get their hands on guns won't let a lock stop them. And if you trust your kids, what about their friends?
Greggie Greggie 8 years
Am I the only one who automatically added Mr Mackey's "nkay?" to "Hiding in dryers is bad"?
CaterpillarGirl CaterpillarGirl 8 years
hiding in dryers is bad?
foxie foxie 8 years
Um, it seems simple enough to me. One could store the gun unloaded, but keep the ammunition somewhere easily accessible to them, but not to their children. Pretty easy concept.
afordster afordster 8 years
So anyone who is saying they would not send their child to a gun- friendly home. are they also saying they would not allow their child to play with the son/ daughter of a police officer?
Leene Leene 8 years
Yeah, Foxie - if you could please answer the question from skigurl and I.
Leene Leene 8 years
Foxie, I understood you don't like stored guns which are loaded? At the same time you defend your stand on this issue with the individuals right to defend themselves by guns. HOW are you going to defend yourself with unloaded gun? If you really think you need the gun for self-protection, shouldn't it be then loaded and ready to use, even at home with children? Otherwise it would not make any point to have one, right? I'm not strictly anti-guns. My dad hunts and we had guns at home. At my home they are only used for hunting, we don't even think they could be used on anything else. My mother hates guns and I don't like them either. But I understand the want to have them for hunting/sport.
skigurl skigurl 8 years
i bring up loaded guns for a couple reasons 1. lilsugar's original post read: "LOADED weapons and lil ones don't mix in my opinion"....so i'm supporting that statement 2. foxie and others made comments such as "Armed robberies happen. Maybe you don't think it's necessary to protect yourself with a weapon, but some people do. And that is completely reasonable." i'm not sure how you would protect yourself from an armed robber without a loaded gun, so therefore i presumed that a gun in the house FOR PROTECTION PURPOSES would be loaded. correct me if i'm wrong, but as i said before, if someone came into your home weilding a gun and attempting to rob you, how quickly could you protect them by finding your key, unlocking your secure cabinet, locating your ammo in a seperate but equally secure cabinet, loading the gun, and then proceeding to attack the invader?
Greggie Greggie 8 years
Ok but I still can't who's saying to keep it loaded in the house, which is where I'm getting confused as to why this argument keeps coming up.
skigurl skigurl 8 years
no, but you do your best to minimize those risks too, like keeping them out of reach, locking them up i'm not saying don't have a dog or don't have a gun...it's don't let your kid pull the dog's tail and don't have a loaded gun would be the same as don't teach your kid that the dryer is a cool place to hide for hide-and-seek
Greggie Greggie 8 years
Again though, we run into "remove any risks" being impossible. Never have any cleaning supplies, don't do laundry, don't have medication in the house, don't have electrical outlets, etc.
skigurl skigurl 8 years
as much as people say "you have to teach your kids" and "it's your responsibility to let them know the rules" etc., it doesn't mean accidents don't happen. facin8me was never tempted as a kid, and maybe some kids won't be, but some will be. and one day, the kid who could care less might have an intimidating playdate over who might talk them into it and they might GET tempted. you never know. it's the same way you never know if your family dog is going to bite your kid's face off. for these reasons, i err on the side of caution when i say loaded guns in the house = no-no, never, and i also think that babies should be kept a safe distance away from dogs too....(like don't take a picture of your 6 month old baby leaning on your dog who used to be vicious...like in a facebook picture i just saw...which is kinda making me angry and i type this!!) it's just common sense to remove any risks!
Mykie7 Mykie7 8 years
My father was in law enforcement, which meant he had guns. However we never saw them except when he cleaned them. A gun should never be loaded in the house, that part I can agree with. They should be kept in a gun safe with the ammo kept separately. But if you're a responsible parent and teach your kids to respect them rather than fear them, then I see no problem with it.
facin8me facin8me 8 years
When my parents got married my dad was a firearm owner. My mom was vehemently against having a firearm in the house, especially after I was born. Then came the day where she had to use the gun to save my dad's life. Long story, but she never questioned firearm ownership again. I always knew we had guns in the house. It was very clear not to even go near where they were locked up. I was never even tempted. You have to educate your kids about guns and safety. If you know somebody is being reckless with their firearm, then it's smart not to let your children go over to that house. But to make a blanket statement that if you knew that person X had a gun you wouldn't let your children play there is ridiculous. It mystifies guns in a way that is not healthy for children. You have to teach your children to live safe, not scared.
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