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What's Your Take: Ellen vs. Mutts and Moms?

What's Your Take: Ellen vs. Mutts and Moms?

To summarize the story for you, Ellen DeGeneres adopted a dog, Iggy, realized she couldn't keep it, and gave it to her hairdresser's family (including two daughters, ages 11 and 12). When Ellen told rescue group owners Marina Batkis and Vanessa Chekroun what she did, they took the dog away from the family because Ellen violated her contract in giving the dog away and because the "Mutts and Moms" organization policy requires all children in the family to be 14 years old and older.

An attorney that was authorized to speak for the rescue group owners (but is not legally representing them) said:

"She (Batkis) doesn't think this is the type of family that should have the dog," said attorney Keith A. Fink. "She is adamant that she is not going to be bullied around by the Ellen DeGenereses of the world ... They are using their power, position and wealth to try to get what it is they want."

I'm curious to hear how you feel about this:


lickoriche lickoriche 9 years
Ellen has blown this thing totally out of proportion. If she had simply apologized and gotten the family to fill out the required paper work to get the dog without trying to get the nation to come down on this agency by making the appeal on her talk show, she probably would have had better luck, but they still should not have to back down. The agency has its policies and they exist for good reasons. These children may be very responsible and mature, but they may not be. If they want a pet, they should fill out the paperwork to get one at a less strict shelter.
vanyvrgs vanyvrgs 9 years
oh to clarify she took the dog back and then after Ellen went on the show, she finally gave up on trying to work with them (which it was still possible after Iggy was taken back but not after Ellen and her crew started the campaign).
vanyvrgs vanyvrgs 9 years
Actually mandyjobo -- they had tried to work with the family before they took the dog back -- they only took the dog back because the family did not want to sign papers or be evaluated. Ellen and the family had a camera there to tape the lady taking the dog back -- she planned that and then brought her on her show the next day when she gave that BS that M&M just took the dog without giving the family an opportunity. I would recommend that you try to get the news about this from outside of Ellen's website.
arienne arienne 9 years
I had two dogs and when one turned 18 months old she became aggressive and started trying to hurt my other dog. We immediately separated them and went through months of trainers, behaviorists, psychologists, etc. to try and work out the problem. Nothing worked and we had to find a new home for our much loved pup. I cried for months, it was heartbreaking. All I wanted was to find somewhere where I would be assured that she was loved and safe. I'm sure Ellen felt the same way. If she is this upset about the incident, I'm sure she felt that this family she knew would take good care of the dog. I think the rescue group overreacted. They should focus on the dogs who don't have loving homes - not the ones who do!
Jennifer_2sugar Jennifer_2sugar 10 years
I go with the seccond to last choice :dog:
MandyJoBo MandyJoBo 10 years
Actually, Vanyvrgs, Ellen spoke about it on her show the day after the owner took the dog back, not before. The owner of Mutts & Moms (Now known as Paw Boutique) asked the family to come for an interview and they said no because it was two hour away--this was wrong on their part. The owner then told them she would come to their house for the interview, and they agreed. Once at their house, she walked past them, to the dog, picked him up, and tried to take off with him. This is on film and all over the internet, mostly at, and Ellen said on the show that it happened "YESTERDAY" hence the reason for her being freshly upset.
vanyvrgs vanyvrgs 10 years
LOrd have mercy.... the shelter did give them an opportunity to file and application and they said no. They wanted to work with the family but the family basically said no. We have the dog we don't need you to agree to it. They wanted to evaluate the dog to see if it was a good match with that family -- they refused. Ellen LIED when she said they were not willing to work with them. After Ellen went on her show with this BS, the owner of the agency said no way. They had rules the family did not follow. And this is not the first dog Ellen gets rid of, she got rid of two before this one also because of the cats and within 2 weeks. It takes a while for a new puppy to get acclimated to a new home. 2 weeks is not enough. But carry on with your beliefs....
kelsen kelsen 10 years
It doesn't sound like Ellen had many/any rights to the dog once she took it home. She adopted Iggy, so shouldn't she be able to make decisions about the dog? Did she have to contact M&Ms if the dog sneezed, or, if it was sick, could she just take it to the vet? I get that rescue groups want something in place to make sure the dog doesn't end up homeless, but at what point does the pet adopter become the pet owner? At what point would Mutts and Moms have been taken off the chip? Also, I wonder how many times M&Ms has enforced this policy...or if this was all to stop the "Ellen DeGenereses of the world." How about we stop the Osama bin Ladens of the world first?!? Hopefully if Iggy is healthy/happy, everybody can move on.
ShaenaLauren ShaenaLauren 10 years
If Ellen was not the famous tv personality that she is, nobody would give a SH&%! I personally think this is ridiculous...the dog was placed in a loving home and personally that is way better than a shelter anyday!
oriav9 oriav9 10 years
Being that she has BEYONG ALOT OF $$$$$$$$, why didn't she just buy the family a new dog or buy the pound, & hire all the people that work there. I have no sympathy for her!
Gabriela14815884 Gabriela14815884 10 years
I think she went about things the wrong way considering that she signed that contract but in this case I think the agency should have just let it go, she not only spent a ton of money for the dog in the first place but she gave him to a family that she knew would love him and take care of him the way that she wanted to but couldn't.
ames3560 ames3560 10 years
Ellen was in the wrong, but the shelter should reevaluate the family to see if it is a good match. I don't think Ellen (who advocates for animals) would put the animal in harms way.
gossipqueen gossipqueen 10 years
Is it evil to think...things are fine the way they are....??? I respect those people for standing their celebrity free pass for Ellen...everybody should be like that! Didn't Ellen think about all the threats those women were gonna get when she complained???? maybe is not in the dogs or kids best interest...but i think everybody will be fine!
lisafrank lisafrank 10 years
I think that Ellen was wrong that she signed an agreement with the adoption agency and shouldve known what the contract entailed. Although she was in the wrong, I think the agency should make an acception and work with the new family to keep the pet.
amers230 amers230 10 years
i don't really see why people think ellen shouldn't have brought this up on her show. it's HER SHOW! she's not a neutral host, she's allowed to voice her own opinions and, if need be, talk about situations she feels wronged in. i know i have an online journal where i complain on occasion about how much a restaurant sucked or about how overpriced a store is or how i was sold a fake bag on ebay (this just happened to me hahaha.) i don't see how this is any different. she had a horrible experience with this organization, regardless of who was right or wrong, and wanted to talk about it. if you don't like it, don't watch her show! personally, i think she should be commended for not being as nasty in the press as she could be. i think she's handled this conversation with class, as she didn't even bring it up on her show first, she only did so after the news of this all happening broke in the news.
Kkkkkkkkkkk Kkkkkkkkkkk 10 years
I also can't believe that they only kept the dog for, what, less that two weeks? before deciding to give him away... That's some pretty rash decision making. Training a puppy can take months, no mater how much money you throw at it. I'm rapidly deciding that i'd like to change my vote.
veve02 veve02 10 years
Well, if they did give them a opportunity to fill out the application, and they wanted the dog that badly...then they should of done it. However I blame Ellen for this incident, not the family that wanted to keep the dog.
veve02 veve02 10 years
Although, I feel Ellen did not follow the rules as she should have, I don't think they needed to be so cruel. What would it hurt to let the girl and the family at least put in a application and give them a chance to adopt within the organizations rules?
Kkkkkkkkkkk Kkkkkkkkkkk 10 years
I've just been reading some more about this on other sites, including comments on Ellen's own site. It seems that M&Ms really did ask the family to come and sign adoption papers, since they couldn't just allow the dog to be transfered, and the family wouldn't do it. If that's true then, wow! Why is Ellen even making any kind of big deal about it if the family had a chance to adopt Iggy but didn't? Seems like they only have themselves to blame and making it all so public (in such an overly dramatic way) seems a badly judged response on Ellen's part.
vanyvrgs vanyvrgs 10 years
I do rescue on ths side as well and there is a reason for these rules. Btw, I guess you did not see the interview with the girl in which she said they were given an opportunity to apply for the dog and visit M&M but it was too far and that the application was too long and since they had the dog already they did not see the need to fill it out. I am sick to death that Ellen in her story is making it seem that no oppotunity was given for this family to keep the dog and that people are buying her BS. In my opinion she was entirely wrong and her going to her fans to ruin this shelter is even worse because she did not get her way and her and this family had to follow the rules. I used to like her -- not anymore.
theboyslover theboyslover 10 years
I'm curious to know why she couldn't keep the dog?
freegracefrom freegracefrom 10 years
I will say that I think the rescue organization's rules are a little over the top. I know I've been burned by one before. I fell in love with a puppy and went through the whole process, only to be rejected because I don't have another dog already. What?! However, I really don't like how Ellen took the whole thing to a public forum. Especially because SHE was the one that was in the wrong. I think they had every right to take the dog back. But I think it would've been better for their organization, as far as their public relations is concerned, if they had given this ONE exception.
sgdish sgdish 10 years
Isn't the whole purpose of the organization to find a home for strays? Sometimes people are more concerned with being "right" than doing the right thing, you know?
Kkkkkkkkkkk Kkkkkkkkkkk 10 years
I agree Mae, but it's shame for all pet adoption agencies, not just that particular one. My worry is that people will see all of this commotion going and think, oh, adpotion is too much hassle. I'll just walk into a pet shop and buy one, they won't check up on me, they don't care how old my kids are etc... And lots of animals who badly need a home will get put down instead :(
mae177 mae177 10 years
It's such a shame what happened. The dog was in no danger. It was all just a misunderstanding. I mean, their whole goal is to give a dog in need a loving home. What really is a shame is that now this pet adoption agency is getting such bad publicity, people might not even want to deal with them? There are a lot of dogs out there who need a good home.
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