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PS: One of my favorite songs is "I Disappear in Your Arms." It's just beautiful. I feel like that theme of disappearing is a sort of through line on the EP, down to the pared-down final chorus of "People, I've Been Sad." Something lost, but also something gained. Could you tell me about your writing process?
"You always think you can overcome everything with language, and then something happens to you and you don't even have words for it."
C: Yeah, I mean, well-noticed. It's true. I actually noticed it afterwards, like listening back. It's so much about being empty-handed, disappearing. "What can I say, what can I do?" "Nada."
Grief: it's a really humbling experience of being at loss of words and things to do. You're overwhelmed by something way more — something immensely vast, and you cannot even grasp through art. It's really the most frightening experience as an artist also, because you always think you can overcome everything with language, and then something happens to you and you don't even have words for it. So I think this EP, for example, comparing writing Chris, which was a record that I thought of for a year, it was joyful, hopeful . . .