On Asian Americans carving out their own space: "We profess that we're caught in the white American gaze, and that's true. But we forget that we are also that gaze. That gaze is encoded into us, and the last boss is yourself . . . When we're always stuck in this white gaze, there's also this expectation to service it . . . America is still not equipped to support the flyness of who we actually are. We're carving out our own space. It's frontier territory right now — still."