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PS: Is there a style you find that now you can't keep in stock? Your bestselling shoe?
CPN: Our bestseller would for sure be this style [points to Keen mules], whether it's, like, the white or the black: the mule. I think our first one that really put us on the map, I would say, like, the d'Orsay-shaped loafer.
MP: We're definitely a loafer/flat brand.
PS: What's your ideal travel shoe? What style are you wearing when you're traveling?
MP: Any loafers, honestly; you can get in and out so quickly.
CPN: Also, like, house slippers — easy, too.
MP: I've been wearing these [points to True mid-heel boot in gold]. They're so easy. Once you get past the fact that they're shiny gold, they're kind of a neutral, right? It's like, people need to get over leopard print . . . it's basically a neutral.