It's no secret that Japanese cleaning guru Marie Kondo knows how to keep an organized house. And while her minimalistic KonMari rules may feel like they only apply prebaby, this new mom also knows what it takes to live a decluttered lifestyle — even when kids are in the picture. If you feel like it's impossible to pare down all of the clutter (ahem, art projects, toys, school awards, books!) that comes with the parenting territory, you're not alone. We asked Kondo for realistic tips on how to declutter with kids, and some of her advice may surprise you!