Michelle Obama recently sat down with Oprah Winfrey for her last White House interview to reflect on her husband's presidency, her family's legacy, and the administration to come. While the full interview will air on Dec. 19 on CBS, a new preview reveals the first lady's concerns about President-elect Donald Trump and his lack of hope.
At the start of the preview, Oprah asked Michelle about the Obamas' use of hope as a campaign slogan and throughout his presidency. On whether or not she thought he actually spread a sense of hope, Michelle likely referred to Trump's election when she said, "Yes, I do, because we feel the difference now. See, now we're feeling what not having hope feels like." She added, "Barack didn't just talk about hope because he thought it was just a nice slogan to get votes."
To illustrate her point about the necessity of hope, Michelle used an analogy involving children who get hurt: "You know, our children respond to crises the way they see us respond. You know, it's like the toddler that bumps his head on the table," she said. "They look up at you to figure out whether it hurts. And if you're like, 'Oh my God,' they're crying. But if you're like, 'You know what, babe, it's OK.' . . . . I feel that Barack has been that for the nation in ways that people will come to appreciate."
Michelle also seemingly compared Trump to a child. "Having a grown-up in the White House who can say to you in times of crisis and turmoil, 'Hey, it's gonna be OK. Let's remember the good things that we have. Let's look at the future,'" she said. "All of this is important for our kids to stay focused and to feel like their work isn't in vain. That their lives aren't in vain. What do we do if we don't have hope, Oprah?"
Did you catch that? Refer to :40 in the video above for the full exchange.