PS: It seems like season four really isn't afraid to "go there," so to speak. Can you tell me a little bit about Jenji Kohan's vision for season four as a whole?
LD: Racism is definitely one of the things that they are going at head-on this season, along with a couple of other things. It's a much darker season. They're talking about major problems that we have in American prisons — it's all there.
TM: Overcrowding, for one.
LD: Yeah, it's darker, all the way around. It's still funny when it's funny, obviously, but it definitely gets darker.
TM: It's frustrating.
LD: Yeah, I'm interested to see how the fans are going to relate when they really start seeing what prisons are like, and the darkness of it. I wonder how they'll feel about it.
TM: I think it's always going to be a roller coaster ride of a show. I think that's what keeps everybody coming back for more. I know that even each episode of this season will bring you up and down, and really put you through it.
