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PS: You guys do boots so well, too. Now that Western's having a moment, you guys have already been doing the aesthetic for a while, like this is your . . .
MP: Kind of; our space. We're even going further into the Western and making it more obvious. We're doing low-ankle booties that are really cute, like mixed-snake [print] across.
PS: So, who are you designing for? What kind of motivates your design process each season?
CPN: Well, it always ties back to us. It's what we want to be wearing and what we feel like we need in our closets. But we travel so much. And I feel like it's funny: if you were to see us on the street, we walk with our head down; we're kind of scoping what everyone's wearing. And a lot of that is menswear or, especially in Europe, men's footwear. In Europe, especially, people are a little bit more functional in how they dress so, like, mixing more classic silhouettes with more modern.